Should noncitizens be allowed to vote?

great! So allow these people to vote then. Easy to prove, everyone who served in the US military gets a DD-214 upon discharge. Anyone else can pound sand. Disagree? Show your work please.

Your second sentence contradicts your first. Unless of course you consider citizenship-through-service to be - pardon the expression - second class.

Dayton, this is a fine example of why people don't take you seriously. You come up with a somewhat reasonable position: "Non-citizens should not be able to vote". Okay. People may disagree with you, but you stance is reasonable. Then, instead of justifying your position with a logical or even partially reasoned argument, you fly straight into the virtue signaling by basically saying anyone who disagrees with you does not love America.

We're used to you making arguments like this and I'm not surprised you've gone this route yet again. I am just morbidly curious how you arrived at that conclusion.

Okay. Enlighten us. Show us the connection. Take us through it. As an "excellent history teacher" this should be pretty easy for you. Just be sure to point out which arguments you make are meant to be little jokes meant to keep our attention.

what if we can't remember the name of our first pet? Does that screw up the accuracy of the data being gathered? Asking for a friend.....

Surely Trump Will Strip Citizenships Carefully


Now that he's been court-ordered to release all children under the age of 5 and return them to their parents, he'll have all those empty cages to refill...

Yes. [thread remains open]

Yes, you've plumbed entire new* depths of stupid all on your own merit.

*Well, circa 1939-1944

Those are called "mercenaries". "Voters" is something completely different. Does the mercenaries' contract promise they'll be allowed to vote???

@matthunter

Yes, yes, wanting voting to remain only among citizens, whose first loyalty is to this country, is totally fascist.

You half wit.

Does Blackwater's contract let them kill indiscriminately? No, but the government let them off the hook.

No, they're soldiers. Figures you wouldn't know the difference. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ain/thousands-of-green-card-soldiers-in-iraq/

Local/ state elections? Eh whatever.
I can see merits to both arguments.

Federal elections for territorial citizens, however, should have been a thing yesterday.

Let's see how many of the Stupids don't know what you mean by territorial citizens.

Puerto Rico and other territories, I assume.

So why did you rate my post ?

Depends what you mean?

Because you assume that those who are opposed to giving non-citizens the right to vote are too stupid to understand what territorial citizens are.

No, I'm assuming that those who don't know what territorial citizens are don't know what territorial citizens are. You do. You can still be opposed to giving citizenship to non-citizens who have served in the military. They're two separate things.

In which city did you first meet your spouse?

Puerto Rico is technically a commonwealth not a territory of the US.

None.

It’s a U.S. territory.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Puerto_Rico

http://time.com/4957011/is-puerto-rico-part-of-us/

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557500279/what-does-being-a-u-s-territory-mean-for-puerto-rico

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico

ummm......no. Non citizens who join the US military aren't mercenaries any more than any home-grown person who joins the US military is a mercenary. We all get the same pay for the same work. They sign the same contract as everyone else. In other words you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

were you there in Iraq observing Blackwater's activities? Maybe you were there, and I just didn't see you there - it's a big place and all.

more importantly, in which city did I first meet your spouse?

It says "unincorporated territory government commonwealth". So what exactly does that mean?

Were you in Nisour Square in Baghdad observing Blackwater's activities on September 16, 2007?

No, I left by then. Fill me in on what I missed! Fill Matthunter in too, unless he was there with you.

Well, since none of us were there, then we'll never know. If only there were a way to find out.

The first paragraph of the first link says it:

Puerto Rico, officially Commonwealth of Puerto Rico (Spanish: Estado Libre Asociado de Puerto Rico) is a self-governing unincorporated organized territory of the United States located east of the Dominican Republic in the northeastern Caribbean Sea.