Should noncitizens be allowed to vote?

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Mercenary: A professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.

Yeah, looks like someone doesn't know the difference.

What exactly do you think the definition of mercenary is?

If they're integrated into the US military, they're not mercenaries, and non-citizens who serve in the military are put on a fast track to citizenship.

I don’t have a problem with granting citizenship to those who’ve served.

You certainly don't, despite several posters with the expertise explaining the difference. Q.v. Posts #83 and #93.

The Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions(GC) of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol I), 8 June 1977:

Art 47. Mercenaries

A mercenary is any person who:
(a) is specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;
(b) does, in fact, take a direct part in the hostilities;
(c) is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party;
(d) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;
(e) is not a member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict;
(f) has not been sent by a State which is not a Party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces.

Oh, I don't have any expertise. Just an unhealthy fascination with the French Foreign Legion since I was a kid.

Yes. Both are still the framework of laws for their respective jurisdictions, and both have been amended to remove discriminatory language, or at least interpreted via case law to avoid such discrimination. A state still retains the right to determine voter eligibility for state and local elections, so long as the eligibility criteria do not violate federal law. The only federal law on point here is 18 U.S.C. §611 which prohibits non-citizen aliens from voting only in federal elections; it does not prohibit non-citizen aliens from voting in state or local elections. Before this law, the Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett stated that "citizenship has not in all cases been made a condition precedent to the enjoyment of the right of suffrage."

So again, I'm completely OK with states and local governments permitting non-citizen residents to vote with reasonable restrictions (e.g. residency requirements). I'd like hear any arguments you have against this, because so far you've only said it should be illegal because it invites voter fraud (it doesn't, and you haven't provided any reasoning why it would invite voter fraud).

That's simply untrue. You're a terrible "history teacher" if you don't even understand simple concepts like this.

If you want to read the arguments why not read the OP and subsequent posts in this thread?

Your other arguments were "it should be illegal because it's bad."

I’m with garamet on this one.

Third-world shitholers have the same god-given, inalienable rights in this “country” as citizens do. You nazis are just butthurt because there’s so many of them and they vote 100% Democrat. #TipTheScales

Aliens can vote once they become citizens. It's straightforward and fair.

I'd agree with this if (a) the path to citizenship were not so prohibitively expensive, time-consuming, difficult, and fraught with random chance; and (b) if the US were not actively trying to strip naturalized citizens of their citizenship.

Again, reasonable restrictions such a residency within a state, owning property in a state, holding a job in a state, or other significant ties with a state should be a sufficient basis for a state or local government to grant non-citizens residents the ability to vote in local elections.

B is a problem. Once you're in the club, no matter how you got there, you should be in for life. If government made a mistake in vetting you, it has to own it.

A is not a problem for me.

He teaches science now. If you pass out, don't let him resuscitate you. I don't know how your body would handle bleeding.

Actually all coaches are required to be CPR certified. And I've passed multiple certifications.

You also passed your Praxis test, so my confidence in the system to winnow out the inept isn't what one would consider solid.

You and many others here simply cannot accept the idea that I might really be skilled and knowledgeable at anything of substance.

It would be a lot easier to believe that if there were some proof.

You've had proof for years. My Praxis II-Content Knowledge test results. 198 out of 200. Naturally you and others simply move the goalposts in response to that.

I love you, but you're an idiot.

I don't give a damn about some test you took years ago, Uncle Rico.

What have you done lately?

How lately?

Six months.

Got a new job making over $50,000 a year. I know that isn't too great for you wordforge high rollers but in my neck of the woods it is pretty good. Even better it is more than my sister who has taught for 33 consecutive years makes.

My sister hates coaches.

Congratulations.

Were you unemployed at the time?

BTW, when you get all defensive about people bagging on your shithole state, things like your sister not breaking $50K a year despite teaching for more than three decades is proof that it is.

FTFY.