Star Trek Beyond ***Spoilers***

That's the one I remember. USS Ti-Ho. Since Montgomery Scott wrote it that's what I believe.

Wow, can't believe that book is almost 30 years old.

The encyclopedia however says that Roddenberry suggested that the new Enterprise at the end of IV was the Yorktown that had been disabled by the probe and Starfleet just renamed it Enterprise. To me this makes no sense. Why would you remove a working ship and the command crew of that ship just to rename it Enterprise. Hell, Kirk stole Enterprise from Decker and now he's stealing another ship from another captain?

It would provide enough power to keep the oxygen running.

There was no need to tow Yorktown or any ship.

At the end of Star Trek IV as the probe is leaving you can see the ships turning back on. Starting with the Starbase.

Which was one of the things I mentioned. Which you would know if you actually read my posts.

Solar sails at least the way we understand them don't generate power

By the way I heard that Roddenberry or maybe it was Richard Arnold did not like Mr. Scotts Guide To The Enterprise because author Shane Johnson had the Enterprise-A having a transwarp drive. Arnold wrote in a letter to Starlog that transwarp drive was only supposed to be mentions in The Search For Spock as a way of showing how great the original Enterprise still was

Did Mr. Arnold receive several Starlog reader smackdowns in response?

Not from me though I loathed Arnold

Oh, what a surprise. Something else about Trek you can't stand.

And we still don't have FTL, or a working model of FTL. That's the neat thing about science fiction, you can take something we do have, or even something that is plausible and expand on it. So a solar sail that can help generate power, 300 years from now can work in a plot.

That's nice.

We know what a solar sail is today and how it works.

Why didn't the Captain of the Yorktown simply say "The Chief Engineer is attempting to deploy a makeship solar array" ? That would've implied solar power cells which obviously generate power that could supply the life support systems.

And we also know what a computer is today, and how it works.



Much different than what a computer was thought of less than a century ago.



Just because we think of something in a certain way, doesn't mean it will be thought of the same way decades or centuries from now. And once again, it is Science Fiction. Which means it can be made to suit the situation or story it's used in.

The very nature of the English Language is likely to be much different in the 23rd century than now.

Think of how many words we use today that mean NOTHING like what they means in 1780, for example. Torpedo? Well, that's now a mine, and torpedoes are something else.

Yup.

I predict "Bible" will mean "enjoyable fantasy novel" in the 23rd Century.

Fairy tales don't exist in the future?

It's already a fairytale (as I routinely point out in other threads). I'm waiting for it to take it's place as one of the classics.

I imagine the English language will still exist in 300 years (although who knows?), but I imagine we'd have at least as hard a time understanding someone from 2300 speaking it as we would someone from 1700.

Hell, English has changed a lot in the last 300 years.

I'd give "STB" a thumb up!

It has its flaws.

But I have to say I'm impressed to have come out of the theatre having enjoyed "STB".

I liked & enjoyed the shadows here & there of other movies &/or TV shows that were in "Star Trek Beyond", whether done consciously or subconsciously.

Krall's method of life extension reminded me greatly of "LIFEFORCE" (1985), though Krall is clearly NOT some type of Space Vampire (as far as is known, we know).

I loved Yorktown. It reminded me of the Dyson Sphere somewhat.

Chris Pine seemed more comfortable in the part of Captain Kirk this time out.

I liked the Franklin & that whole part of the movie involving its resurrection & taking off again to the stars.

Given what we see in this movie, in the Prime Universe Krall's Swarm, & his other toys, would've come in very handy, to say the least, against The Borg & The Dominion.

With Krall defeated, that planet & its history & treasures are now free for the UFP to explore, study, & carefully, safely, & successfully reverse engineer, if its something that can benefit the UFP.

At first, I thought perhaps Krall & his armada might have turned out to be the Husnock from TNG. From that episode with veteran journeyman character actor John Anderson.

But they didn't, & that's just as well. Had it been, I don't think it would've changed the movie much qualitatively in any way, good or bad.

All of the Spock Prime stuff was excellently done & with class.


I wish Pegg & Lin could've persuaded William Shatner to be in "STB".

It would've been cool having a perhaps, 5 minute or so epilogue with Shatner as the decades older nuKirk reflecting back on his life & career, whether privately or in conversation.

The video's pretty right on. If you went back to the year 1000, English would be completely foreign (both in sound and writing), as in this opening paragraph from Beowulf:

A speaker of Modern English will get very little out of that. There's only a few words in that text which are familiar...and there are some letters we don't even use anymore! (We write "th" for both of those letters today.)

Good thing Spock Prime decided to pack that box of momentos when he went on the Red Matter mission in the whirlygig ship, huh? Otherwise they wouldn't exist.

They probably have no way to improvise solar panels, but a solar sail could be used to generate power easy enough. The cable it's connected to unspools as the sail is pushed by sunlight. The spool is connected to an electric generator, and turns as the sail moves away. There's other possibilities, but it can be done.

Okay, you want to know what's even funnier?

The little plaque that shows NimoySpock--it was made after his death, since it has death year on it--has highlights of his Starfleet service record on it. But that service record no longer exists because it was in an alternate timeline. So, who put that on there?

And it's a good thing that Nero let him take that stuff when he marooned him on the ice planet.

Nero: "Here, Spock! Don't forget your crew photo keepsake! Wouldn't want you to be without it while you're watching me wipe out your homeworld."





(And, yes, it did have to be with him, because NuSpock kamikaze'd the ship [and all its contents] into Nero's.)

It was still on the Jellyfish when nuSpock recovered it from the Narada.

He beamed it out in advance.

No!

NO!

It's an inconsistency and you will acknowledge it! Acknowledge it!

I definitely liked it better than TWOK2:Into Darkness. My only real complaint is that the bad guy wasn't fleshed out as much as he should have been. I liked seeing the NX class ship on screen, it's one of the few federation/human ship designs i like. It really felt the most like a trek movie of the Nu Treks. D'ya think the references to the music as "classical" was a reference to futurama?

I don't know what you're all yapping about original Spock.

Of course he had it on him. Spock's outfit has like 50 pockets on the inside.

it was preserved on a tiny 23rd century equivilant of a jump drive which he could plug into a replicator at his convenience and reconstitute all of it.