Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

Heresy.

Apparently the official abbreviation will be DSC, for this very reason....!

I haven't followed closely, but is it definite that Discovery is a ship name?

That name's on the saucer of the ship in the teaser video.

In that case, maybe the show follows adventures of the ship through different eras. That could explain the comment about multiple crews, along with the comments about people not having the place in time correct. If it has no fixed place in time, it would likely have varied crews.

Could be interesting. Imagine a TOS series that had Captain April for season one, Captain Pike for two, Captain Kirk for three, Captain Spock for four . . .

As with any NU-trek, "pun" fully intended, we won't know anything quality wise til we see it!

It's simply ?!?! at this juncture.

If it were up to me, I'd go non-linear. But otherwise, yeah, that's the idea.

Yes, numbers matter. DD-62 and DDG-62 belong to two entirely separate classes of destroyers, as do even and odd numbered littoral ships, and SS and SSN for subs.

Trek is a bit more straightforward since they number their ships in order, as far as I can tell, so it makes sense for people to assume this is around the same time or earlier than TOS.

It's funny cuz I got into Trek cuz of a guy and I'm probably more into it than he is now I certainly wouldn't be here if I'd never gotten into the show.

But that's why I never jumped on the "JJ Trek folks aren't real fans" bandwagon because you don't know how people will get into a show. I was forced to watch TNG as a kid and if I'd never gotten into ENT, shitshow that it was, I would've missed seeing TNG with fresh eyes and getting the themes that went over my head when all I wanted to do was watch Power Rangers like a normal kid.

I think it's safe to safe JJ Trek played a big part in this show being green lit and that no one staring down the 2.4 million views Enterprise was averaging believed wed have much of a franchise to save, let alone a new series barely a decade later.

Are you telling General Kitchens that he doesn't understand the Navy? Careful, he's liable to have you court marshalled when he becomes President in 2032!

Could mean we get stories with the crew of the asteroid base as well as that of the ship, instead of having them merged like the DS9/Defiant crews were?

Star Trek is for nerds.

Someone started that rumor based off thst "new crews" tagine in the first trailer. I have to say I'm open to the idea of rotating main cast members more frequently than when somebody quits in the middle of the third season, but focusing on one crew doesn't bug me, either.

This series should take place in the Andromeda Galaxy.

I'm tired of all the usual Trek races. Let's go somewhere really new. And let's not give up on that premise like Voyager did almost immediately.

If it takes place that far away then it doesn't even matter if it's in the prime universe or the rebooted universe.

Or have it take place in the far, far future. The Federation is gone and Earth has almost become a mythical place to the galaxy at large.

That will never happen

Again.

Explain SSN-21

Off the top of my head, I can tell you it's a Nuclear-capable submarine, as opposed to the traditional warheads that aren't full of nukes.

The number 21 gives the order of which it was commissioned in comparison to the rest of its class. Sometimes, the class designation doesn't even begin with the number one, IE, USS America (LHA 6) is the first America-Class design, and not a Wasp-Class (which was LHA 1)

Keep going, motherfucka.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_number#United_States_military

The "N" notes its means of propulsion, not that it's nuclear capable. Same as nuclear carriers are CVNs as opposed to their non-nuke CVs of the past.

Missile subs are SSBNs.

What won't happen?

That type of Trek show? I think it could. Voyager was an attempt in that direction until they gave up and started running into all the old Alpha/Beta quadrant races. As well as all these Delta Quadrant races that had visited Earth. Like the races from 'the 37s' 'distant origins' and the chakotay aliens.

Or Earth becoming forgotten after thousands of years? I actually think it's an interesting idea. Battlestar Galactica played around with that notion and it was also one of the major ideas in Asimov's Foundation series. Kind of like the Atlantis myth. A dominant civilization ruined and then gradually forgotten about.

I forgot that quickly in the last year or so. Thanks for that. And thanks for telling Dayton hull numbers do have some meaning behind them.

The thing about the number is that we have pretty strong evidence that Starfleet doesn't follow the same conventions as the USN. They keep using 1701, even for significantly different ships, decades later.

I guess the number is attached to a particular name usage, then

NCC is usually understood to stand for "Naval Construction Contract" and is not in fact a hull number like our Navy uses.

Yeah, it's not even a hull classification symbol like CVN, FFG, etc because nearly all Starfleet ships seem to have that prefix before their hull number.

That's actually why I made a point of naming my reboot fan-fic something else, though that was also partly because I felt the show should be about the people and not about the ship. Plus it would have given me the option of destroying the ship if that was the direction I wanted to take.

Joking aside, I've always wondered why they didn't think to just switch the last two numbers to make it "NCC-1710."

All of them do, except for the prototype ships, which have the NX prefix. And thanks to the Excelsior's example, we've seen that the ships gain the NCC prefix once they've ceased to be prototypes.

And you could still maintain a character, either a Vulcan who we see go through rank (S1: ensign, S2: XO, S3: Captain, S4: Admiral, S5: retired), or an immortal type character (maybe a younger, alien equivalent of Flint) providing an emotional link across them all.