Still think we shouldn't accept refugees?

The fact you're a racist doesn't offend me as such, I just think it's rather sad and pathetic. And of course, as I said, when racists use that kind of language to describe fellow human beings, it paves the way for violence, murder and genocide.

Also, you said that 84% of the migrants are not from Syria, yet now you say that it's 84% who have no claim to refugee status. Are you saying that only people from Syria can be refugees or have you just confused yourself?

Yeah, whatever you say there, Donald Trump.

Why don't you check the official EU stats I linked to above which says only 16% of them are Syrian and most of those are young males escaping the draft?

So no response to the substance? The endless links and facts or the videos... None of that matters because you are butt hurt and facts don't matter? What a little bitch you are. You think if you just call the messenger names for telling it like it is some how that will mean all those facts won't matter. Yeah, like they will magically become less violent, like a black Eratrean will magically become a Syrian, or that a Syrian who has been living safe and sound in Turkey will magically become a refugees who is in fear of its life but who only wants to go to the country with the most welfare despite EU law saying something totally different. Those are the real lying shit stains right there.

But dating to tell the truth which you don't like is racist. Animals act like animals and these are definitely animals.

I like you.

Welcome to the board, BTW. How'd you find us?

Probably my signature on another forum.

Anyway, back to "I don't like reality so I will call people names if they tell me about it".

Shit, I wonder if this guy thinks the Swedish government is racist because their official government statistics say Muslims commit 70% of the rapes in the country even though they make up just 5% of the population? With these people daring to point out facts like crime stats is always racist.

Hell, even the UK has a massive, absolutely massive, problem with muslims raping under aged girls, abusing them, hooking them on drugs, and then trafficking them into prostitution. They were even doing it right in their fucking mosques and the imam didn't give a shit as long as they gave him a cut of the money. They all said the white girls deserved because they are just infidels and if they weren't whorls they would wear berkas. See how this works with the animals? This is what Europe has to look forward to.

Oh, but wait, that is another one of those real world facts which some people get upset if you mention it. "I don't care if it is true! I want to ignore it because it hurts my feelings!"

I wonder if our new friend has any comment on the early link showing that 80% of the muslims in the EU are on welfare even the ones who lived there for four generations? Not to mention the fourth generation Turks in Germany who STILL refuse to learn to speak German.

How is this helping Europe at all to import lazy shits who refuse to work or even assimilate even after generations living there? Oh, wait, that is another one of those uncomfortable truths we aren't supposed to mention out of fear some idiot will claim me toning truths they don't like is racist, huh?

Next he will try to convince us the illegal alien migrants chanting "Hartz IV" (Germany's social benefits program) really aren't coming because they want welfare.

Dinner you seem to have misunderstood what's going on. Perhaps if you produced less spittle as you type you'd be able to read better. I saw your attempts to insult and dehumanise large numbers of desperate people from diverse parts of the world fleeing war and upheaval or simply seeking a better life based on a few incidents and called you out on it. You then reacted angrily to being called a racist based on your appalling racism, and then proceeded to spew more of the same nonsense over 4(!) posts.

Completely false and you would know that if you looked at real statistics rather than European equivalents of stormfront. While unemployment rates for muslims (or rather ethnic groups with Muslim majorities) are higher than those of native populations, they're nowhere near 80%. See for example here from page 109 onwards, if you want to educate yourself, which you probably don't because of your incredible racism.

Hi Anna, thanks for your welcome.

To answer your question, I did a google search for 'The Flashlight likes to touch small boys' and it brought me here.

...don't even wanna know

Muslim groups say the welfare rate/unemployment rate for muslim groups in Europe is 80%. I posted a video of an Egyptian academic going over the stats. I posted links to EU reports.

You can't just wave your hand and pretend anyone who points out a fact you don't like is a racist. I will read your linked report, all 300+ pages of it, but I noticed it said it was paid for, in part, by Muslim organizations and pro-immigration pressure groups so it is unlikely to be an unbiased source and you know it.

Lastly, the EU and each member state has a refugee system where people can apply at the embassy of any country any where in the world. You will notice these people are not doing that not even in safe countries like Turkey, Lebenon, or Jordan. The reason why is obvious. They do not legally qualify as refugees, they are economic migrants, and thus they are seeking to become illegal aliens. So give up on the lie that anything more than a tiny, tiny fraction of these people are refugees.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/09/daily-chart

You will notice that even in relatively open and accepting Britain 90% of refugee applications are rejected as fraudulent and/or lacking in merit. The two highest are Sweden and Germany (30% and 40% acceptance rates) which combined with extremely generous welfare shows why the migrants want to go there and are ignoring EU law and refusing to register in the half dozen countries they cross through.

Hungary, quite correctly, says if you break EU law then you application is automatically rejected. More EU states should enact such laws. If they pass through a single EU country but refuse to register, as per the law, then they should be arrested and deported onsite. The EU doesn't need more criminals and law breakers.

Reading Inutil's pro-Muslim immigration paper it says the work place participation rate for muslims is 29% in Belgium and about 50% in the UK, Netherlands, and Denmark. It notes most of that work is temperary, periodic work, or part time. Those are the best rates too and I notice for some reason they neglicted to post the rates for Muslims in Germany, Italy, France, Sweden, Norway, and Switzerland. I wonder why that could be?

Gee, do you think the (partially) muslim funded pro-Muslim pressure group could be cherry picking data and trying to spin things to make them appear better than they are? They wouldn't do that, would they? I actually looked up the numbers for the countries left off the list and indeed they are substantially higher. Even though the natives manage 70%-80% work place participation rates and some immigrant groups (Sikhs and Hindus for example) do even better.

Given that those countries have the vast bulk of Muslims on Europe, yes, it appears the Egyptian researchers and previous links I posted very well could be correct that around 80% of them do not work. 80 fucking percent.

Do you think it is a good idea to bring in such unskilled and obviously lazy people where 4 out of 5 of them are multigenerationally unemployed? Why is it Hindus, Sikhs, and Buddhists are able to find work at higher than native rates yet all of the muslims are happy to sit on their asses sucking up welfare? Could this be a cultural problem? Oh, wait, would that be another one of those facts which upset you and cause you to call people racist?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/1...ttlers-germany-live-welfare-daniel-greenfield

Try focusing on the content and tell me what you think.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...rwen-el-Mohammed-TV2-News-Immigration-Refugee

On how the Muslim migrants refuse to claim asylum in Denmark because they are not given enough free welfare there. Hopefully, Sweden and Germany turn off the welfare magnet before it is too late.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ill-Cash-Eurostat-David-Cameron-Yvette-Cooper

Official EU stats show that over the last 45 days 80% of the migrants are not from Syria. 4 out of 5 are not even fleeing war but are just run of the mill illegal alien economic migrants.

I still don't see how considering things like "where can I flee to where I will have the fewest economic problems" somehow invalidates a person having a legitimate need to flee.

Simply going where you will get the best deal, economically, doesn't mean that your sole motive for going someplace is economic, merely that you aren't stupid. You can be both a legitimate refugee and an economic immigrant. One does not invalidate the other.

I'm not suggesting that all "economic immigrants" are legitimately refugees, but you certainly seem to be implying that the reverse is some sort of universal truth; that all immigrants who consider economic factors are not legitimate refugees.

Yes, but they could have been traumatized by seeing Syrian violence on TV. And it also says:

while another 17,700 claims were made by Albanians​

Those are valid claims because Albania got overrun by refugees trying to get to Germany to collect welfare, so thousands of Albanians have to flee the oncoming hordes.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6527/migrants-rape-germany

German authorities at the Federal level are trying to down play it for obvious political reasons but local authorities are raising the alarm that rape by Muslim migrants is now reaching epidemic proportions in Germany. Fortunately right now most of them are locked up in migrant centers so they are mainly raping and forcing into prostitution female migrants but they will be out in a few short weeks and then the regular people will have to defend themselves from the rapists Merkel has brought into Germany.

Shit, for the last three months the German government the German government has been actively covering up a case where a 22 year old male migrant from Eritrean repeatedly raped and beat a 12 year old girl. Courts even let him go with a slap on the wrist saying he was just a poor migrant with no hope. I am sure we have much more of the same to look forward to with these kinda of violent animals on the street.

Anyone remember the violent muslim gang in Rotherham? They raped and forced into prostitution using threata of violence over 1400 girls, virtually all of them white whom they described as beneath them and slut who deserved it. The girls were as young as 9. Yet, in the name of tolerance and multiculturalism the police refused to crack down on the Muslim gang for years. Hell, father's routinely took their sons out to teach them how to beat and rape white women.

It violates EU law. Legally they must register in the first safe country they enter and failing to do that is a criminal act. Migrants who break the law should be immediately deported. International law requires countries to accept genuine refugees yet, by their actions, virtually none of these people are, legally speaking, refugees. They are simple illegal alien economic migrants seeking to break the law. Criminals are not the type of people who should be allowed in.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RI0CV20150918

The Croats are now just trying to dump them on anyone they can. They have stopped trying to register any of them and first they tried to dump them on Slovenia but Slovenia, wisely shut it's border. Next Croatia put a bunch of the illegal aliens on a train and had the train go to Hungary. The Hungarians not only arrested the train driver, but also disarmed and arrested the Croatia police and confiscated the train. The illegal aliens where correctly shoved back into Croatia.

I'm a bit tired of dumb fucks like Diner hijacking serious threads about the refugee crisis. It would be an awesome idea to just ban the fucker, or to add some kind of intelligence filter to WF where we can keep idiot racists like him/her/it out of serious discussion. The reason why so many people have left WF, I fear, is exactly this - you can't have a civilised discussion here without idiots spamming it all to hell. Calling refugees 'animals', whining about tsunami's of refugees, yada yada yada.. I've got Geert Wilders right here in Holland for that kind of inhumane stupidity, don't need it repeated on WF.

As for the few serious points he did mention:
- percentage of refugees from Syria: 16% in first quarter. Correct. There were 29095 from Syria- which, incidentally, was the 2nd highest number, there were only more people coming from Kosovo. My conclusion: 29k Syrians for the entire EU was clearly not a problem; during the 1st quarter there were no reports of EU countries not being able to handle the coming of refugees.

Of course, he conveniently took the 1st quarter statistics, while the 2nd quarter statistics are also available: it increased to 21%, or 43995 Syrian refugees - the highest of all. And that still only covers the months of april-june, which was not the peak at all. Nevertheless, the increase in Syrian refugees was 51%. I'd say they are all welcome to stay.

As for the idiotic assumption that these are not the poor people and therefore don't need help... I'd assume anyone with a brain would welcome them. The Syrians are indeed not poor: the are fleeing war, not economic hardship. Most of them are well educated and have skills to contribute to the countries willing to let them in.

Regarding their religion - who fucking cares? And even if you do care - even if Europe took in all Syrians, and even if they're all muslim - the % of muslims in Europe would still be minimal. We're not about to swamped or driven out, you idiots.

Concerning how much our economies can take - please, really? There are 1.2 million refugees in Libanon. A country 4 times larger than The Netherlands. And here some Dutch people whine about the couple of thousand refugees we are asked to deal with. No, they want them shipped back to Syria or want 'the region' to help. I think they're doing enough already - with the exception of the Arab states: but they're not really the democracies we're looking up to, are they? We're not really surprised that oppressive regimes care little about the plight of refugees from poor or war-torn countries, are we?

It is sickening how rich, priviliged Europeans whine how they would hate to lose a tiny bit of their wealth to support their fellow man, woman and child. And it is equally sickening to realise how we let this crisis start in the first place. Or have we forgotten how the war started in Syria, and how no Western nation was willing to do what it took to end it swiftly, for fear of offending Russia - which at the same time, of course, didn't think twice about annexing the Crimea. This kind of weak-kneed political 'leadership' shows what a failure the EU currently is, and how much chance there is of us actually becoming a union worth the name. None.

Here are some facts about this so-called 'crisis' we have - which in reality is only an ethical crisis: one where we are confronted with how little we learned from the 20th century, where we realise in shame that despite all our big words, in reality, we don't care. We don't care about the babies lying dead on our beaches, we don't care about people fleeing war. We turned entire countries into palaces and we do everything to keep the poor out of our carefully cultivated gardens - and if they do show up, we complain that they don't belong here, that it is wrong for them to ask us for help. We are the aristocracy of the world. It makes me ashamed to be European.

Thank goodness Syria is the only place where there's war and suffering! You say that 4 out of 5 refugees are not Syrian, then say that those 4 out of 5 are not 'legitimate'. Do you see the enormous hole in your argument here?

In Europe - good grief - and yet another untrue assertion. The three EU countries with the highest Muslim populations are France, Germany and Britain, all of which are discussed in the report.

You claimed that 80% of Muslims in the EU are on 'welfare'. That's clearly false, as I've shown. I notice the complete lack of any evidence in your post. If you have some actual statistics to back up your claim - that's statistics, not videos or links to right-wing hate sites - then feel free to post them.

You mean that people want to go to places where they're most likely to be accepted? You've, like, blown my mind, man.

As for the rest, it's just same 'some people in this huge group of people did some bad things, so that means that everyone in the group is subhuman - but don't call me racist', and you cheering poor and desperate people getting a kicking from your safe western home.

This guy remembers.

No comment in the most recent numbers available which said last month just 20% where Syrians while 80% were just the usual illegal alien opportunist filth? Thought not.

Your surrender is accepted. You are refusing to respond to any points and simply yell names calling people with different opinions racist. This is, of course, because you want to shut down conversation because you have no counter points.

Which is exactly what I said but you didn't bother to read it, as usual. The problem is people filing for asylum don't legally get to pick which country they want to go to under EU law. They legally are required to file in the first country they enter, these violent welfare seeking people are breaking EU law for personal financial gain. That is not admirable, that is criminal.

It is not some of them doing bad things it is virtually all of them. The legal way would be to apply at embassies in the middle east or failing that to apply in either Greece or Bulgaria where ever they land first. They are refusing to do that therefor under EU law they are not legally refugees and are just illegal alien criminals. You know it, I know, and the only difference is you are trying to pretend the law doesn't matter. For you your feelings seem to be all that matters.