Tennessee Republicans block resolution condemning neo-Nazis 'I'm in utter disbelief at what just hap

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  1. Paladin

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    I neither claim they're innocent nor that they're misunderstood. If someone commits violence, then the state may use force against them. The state can't initiate force on someone just because they hold or express a repugnant view.
     
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    As repulsive and disgusting as I find Kluckers and white supremacists, I agree with this. As much as I'd like to see harm come to them, I can't base doing it on their views alone.

    Same thing with adults who put ketchup on hot dogs. :bailey:
     
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    Bull Fucking Shit
     
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    No, but the state does act against people who do prepare and make open threats. Overlooking the violent white guy who was making threats and preparing to shoot up a school did not work so well down here in floriduh recently. Someone probably could have picked his ass up before hand and seized his guns for making terrorist threats. However since he was doing so for the neo Nazi movement even though he may not have known any of them they overlooked him despite everyone calling the police about him had he been Muslim do you think they would have let him be so open about his plans without acting and trying to at least trap him in something? Instead they just sloshed people aside because they supposedly have to let Nazis snap while fucking with everyone else. That guy did not slip through the cracks, he crossed on a bridge made of white privilege.
     
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    Let me second that:

    Bull Fucking Shit

    Because while they may be anti-swamp when you look at what they write on other things it's quite clear that they are racist.

    Yes it is possible to be anti-swamp and still be a racist fucktard at the same time.

    If you call yourself Alt-Right you are a racist.
     
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    And then some. Poodle done lost his mind if he thinks such things. Ok, that was quite obvious and redundant as clearly poodle operates on some chewing gum and loose wing huts rolling around up in his cranium.

    Stupid spell check thought I wanted to say chewing gnome. I mean really what the fuck is chewing gnome? Is that one of bilbo's friends who is trying to kick the pipe by chewing longbottom leaf? Gandalf would not be pleased.
     
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    Dear poodle, if zombie gets it what the fuck are you waiting for? Should we ask @Dayton3 and find out if poodle is stupider than him in this case?
     
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    Think about that some. ;)
     
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    Considering how much the labels "white nationalist" and "Neo-Nazi" are thrown around, you probably should.
     
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    You mean like antifa? :diacanu:
     
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    "Alt-Right" is this decade's "Neo-Con." Just look at how it actually gets used. :rolleyes:
     
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    So you support charging people with thought-crime, then?
     
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    Well of course to stupid leftists everyone is Alt-Right who doesn't agree with the leftist world view. But who gives a fuck about the idiots on the left?

    But that doesn't mean that Alt-Right is a term that should be used by those on the right.

    Racists use Alt-Right. Racists created the term. The Alt-Right is not the alternative movement of the left. The Alt-Right is the alternative movement of the right.

    If you call yourself Alt-Right you are a racist. That's what you are telling everyone.
     
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    The only good Nazi is a dead one.

    You can't call yourself an American and fly a Swastika.
     
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    Considering that they've appointed themselves our moral guardians and are getting an inordinate amount of press and influence, I would think that you should, along with everyone else.

    I mean, I could be wrong, but my take on it is that the "alt-right" started out as conservatives who did not see themselves as traditional conservatives or Republicans, and that the white nationalists latched onto it an basically ruined it. Kind of like what happened with the Tea Party movement. You are correct that the term is now associated with racism, though this could simply be due to propaganda from the "idiots on the left" as that is what they mean anyway when they throw the term about and try to label anyone who disagrees with them with the term. Hell, I'm sure they'd happily slap the term on you.
     
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    True, they like to call it the whirling log instead.

    Kind of disappointed you seem to like the idea of charging people with thought-crime though. But, then, you did brush aside the crimes the NSA committed to froth at the mouth over Snowden exposing said crimes, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
     
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    And you'd be wrong.

    The term Alt-Right was started and popularized by everyone's favorite Nazi-that-needs-to-be-punched-in-the-face: Richard Spencer.

    The alt-right aren't conservatives. They are racists.
     
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    If Zombie and 14thDoctor are actually on the same side of an issue, and Captain Hentai is on the other side, it should be pretty fucking obvious who's correct. :async:

    Hint: it's not the guy with the waifu pillow. :diacanu:
     
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    I don't have one, but thanks for playing, Polanski apologist. :diacanu:
     
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    Are you trying to say Neo-Nazi's in America are trying to state the Swastika is a symbol of peace just because at one time it was? If so you're a fucking idiot.

    It's too late for that.

    The symbol is forever tainted.

    If you want to be a member of a terrorist group why shouldn't you expect to be arrested?

    Same as the mob. Same as any gang like MS-13.

    In fact I'd go as far to say that if the government has proof you're part of an illegal group they should be able to arrest you on the spot and everyone should be tried for the same crimes of everyone.

    So if one fucker kills someone than all you fuckers rot in prison with him.

    I don't remember frothing over Snowden. :shrug:
     
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    No, I'm making fun of how absolutist you are. You're sounding like those idiots on the left. :diacanu:

    And they still get due process, too, so :shrug:

    Wow, you really do have an authoritarian streak to you, don't you?

    You seemed to be of the opinion that he's a traitor and deserves to get hanged. I suppose I could be confusing you with someone else, but the bit immediately before this kind of makes me think not.
     
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    Is that yours? :diacanu:
     
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    i've reported you for doxxing @Captain X's wife


    not cool man
     
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    First they came for the white nationalist Nazis, and I kicked up an almighty stink because I'm fucking stupid.
     
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    I agree with Tererun here to a point.....the police/authorities should act on a specific threat only. You could even include a semi-specific threat in this. But very open, vague, implied threats? That's a slippery slope. And sorry, it's not just about "letting Nazis snap". :dayton:The Fort Hood crazy radicalized doctor who shot up his own workplace was not a Nazi. The army had plenty of ammo (no pun intended) to nail his ass but let it slide because being a Muslim officer he was a minority and the army has to promote diversity at all costs. In this case the cost was a shit-load of bodies. So in this case they did not act on it because he was a muslim and such are army politics. Granted that is just one institution not an entire nation of civilians. Trust me the army (or any government agency) will round up a Nazi or white supremacist in a New York minute, and they have done so in the past.

    Bottom line the "authorities" by which I mean the FBI, law enforcement at all levels, schools at all levels, churches at all levels if necessary (good luck with that) :brood: mental health at all levels, employers at all levels, etc. need to be on the same sheet of music, full stop.
     
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    Name one person Antifa has killed trying to enact political change.

    Then I'll name people Neo-Nazis killed in their process... I'll even spot you the first 6 million that come to mind.
     
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    Radical leftist groups have been monitored by law enforcement for over a century, when they weren’t getting infiltrated, set up, or outright murdered. Why do they have to treat Nazis with kid gloves?
     
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    Is that the bar? Someone has to die before it's ok to call a movement or organization "harmful"?

    Antifa is admittedly responsible for a lot of violence, physical attacks, and property damage.
     
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