Tennessee Republicans block resolution condemning neo-Nazis 'I'm in utter disbelief at what just hap

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  1. K.

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    For what? Comparing them to National Socialism or ISIS? Yes, at least.
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  2. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Does someone have to die before a terrorist group is a terrorist group and worth monitoring and guarding against, though?

    Please note, I haven't mentioned my opinion about how we should handle Neo-Nazis and racists. I state now bluntly: I hate them, I am against them, and I want them to all go away.
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  3. AlphaMan

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    I'm no law enforcement/threat analyst, but it seems to me that a lot of people on the right want to prop up Antifa as some sort of "Alt-Left" equivalent to Neo-Nazis and the Klan on the Alt Right, but there's absolutely no comparison at this date and time. One group kills people to effect political change, the other punches that group on sight. "Antifa" itself is short for "Anti-fascist. The urge to equate the 2 approaches Trump levels of political spin. No one's falling for it.
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  4. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Let's talk about "this date and time". A scan through the news for the last couple years shows Antifa doing a lot of nasty stuff. Yet, I didn't even know that Neo-Nazis and the Klan were even still a thing until people started mentioning them here on WF. I know that when I was in high school in the late 80's and early 90's, Skinheads and Neo-Nazis were a relatively big thing, but I hadn't heard jack about them for almost 20 years. What have they done LATELY? I think people worry about Antifa because they are up to their tricks NOW.

    All honesty: show me from news articles that Nazis and the Klan are up to the same level of nonsense as Antifa (at a minimum) NOW (within the last several years anyway), and I promise you, I'll pay as much attention to their scummy antics as I do Antifa.
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    Seriously dude?

    I don't mean to sound disparaging, but the Alt-Right has been on sort of a killing spree. A lot of white people don't seem to recognize it I believe because it isn't directed at them, but people of color are far more concerned with them than ISIS or any radical muslim group. Aquick google of "Alt -Right Violence gave me this from the SPLC:


    I hope this was illuminating for you.
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  6. Rincewiend

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    Really? Well, Fox news, newsmax and all those other good old "conservative" newssources don't like to focus on their own racism, let alone of groups that support them...
    Hell, 10 years ago all the old and a lot of new racist groups came out of the woodwork after the USA elected the 1st non-white president...
    You really missed that? Or did you choose to ignore all that?
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  7. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    How can you be aware of the Antifa and their current "tricks" and not be aware of who they're currently pulling those tricks on? :unsure:

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    Wait just a goddamned minute, here. My great-great-great grandpappy didn't sacrifice his life at the Battle of Nacho Grande so some manbun wearing cockfag could put ketchup on a hot dog. :ua: His last letter home, written in the middle of the Battle of Burrito Hills, stressed how we were there, in Fajitastan, to be a civilizing force for good in the world. In reading that letter, I know that my great-great-great grandpappy would feel, as I do, that putting ketchup on a hot dog is a war crime, and those who commit such atrocities deserve only one fate: Death. :bergman: :bailey:
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    To @shootER and @Tuckerfan: I hate mustard, full stop. Ketchup and kraut or this stuff if I can find it on the West Coast:
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    From my cold, dead hands. :bergman:
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  12. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I currently in a phase where I only like chili and cole slaw.
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    I think that has a little ketchup in it. :nono:
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    Exactly. @shootER and I have been wrangling over this for years. ;)
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    yes the alt right are super stable and not racist and it's antifa we should worry about, not those who actually harbor racist and violent views that tiptoe awfully close to wanting genocide

    ohwait

    Dylann Roof’s Sister Arrested After Bringing Weapons to School Walkout
    A sister of Dylann Roof, the man who massacred nine black churchgoers in South Carolina in 2015, was arrested on Wednesday for bringing a knife, pepper spray and marijuana to her high school, the authorities said.

    Morgan Roof, 18, was arrested on drugs and weapons charges at her high school, A.C. Flora, in Columbia, S.C., and taken to a detention center, Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said in a statement.

    Sheriff Lott said that a school resource officer was informed by an administrator that Ms. Roof had the weapons and drugs. “Roof had also made a social media post on Snapchat which caused alarm to the student body,” Sheriff Lott said. No students were harmed, he said.

    Ms. Roof’s Snapchat post criticized students who planned to walk out of class to protest gun violence. “I hope it’s a trap and y’all get shot,” it said. “We know it’s fixing to be nothing but black people walkin out anyway.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/morgan-roof-dylann-roof.html
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  17. AlphaMan

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    I'm on my third watch now and I cant stop laughing!! :rotfl:
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    She sounds like a delightful young lady. :rolleyes:
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  19. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I think we should do something similar on a national level. Let's treat all Muslims with extremists views as terrorists.

    Any objections or worries about that policy?
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    There you go again, you Nazi-loving piece of shit. :nono:
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  21. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Do you have some objection to my proposal?

    Or are you soft on Muslim extremism? Maybe you have ties to ISIS?
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    I have some objection to you wasting perfectly good oxygen, Nazi apologist. :shrug:
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    I agree. It is not a matter of letting any group get away with making credible threats. I understand there might be some vague things that might fall under venting over threatening that our authorities have to deal with. I don't think any group or person should get a pass on making threats to others because they are white or Muslim or even some Jedi or.bronie making threats of violence. The authorities need to investigate and if they find people making threats that are stockpiling weapons there has to be something done. It has to be violent threats also. I am going to vote trump/obama straight out of office is not a threat of violence even if I have a weapon stockpile, but if I say I am going to shoot up some place and I am buying or owning a bunch of weapons it is time for the cops to come knocking.

    Please, I am not one of the people who think an angry Muslim should be overlooked because profiling is bad. Profile away, just handle things within the law and document the threats and behavior for use in court. If you got a guy ranting and raving on camera like a crazy person cover your ass and record it because we the people are understanding we don't want hot headed people and bullies running around with guns. If you want to be a hot headed dude and rant and rave then you do that without a gun. Freedom of speech, but there is consequences to being a nutbar. This also goes to heavy drinkers or drug users. If you want to drink and do drugs I am cool with that, but guns should not be in your environment when you do it.
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    So, no reasoned objection to my proposal? Just more name-calling?

    Pretty bold for an Al-Qaida sympathizer. :diacanu:
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  25. Quincunx

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    The comparison is not valid. Of course it is not right to treat all Muslims as terrorists, any more than it is right to treat everyone of North/Western European descent as Nazis. However, that subset of Muslims who are actively involved with extremist groups warrant scrutiny, just as do people involved with neo-Nazi groups.
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  26. Paladin

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    I said "Muslims with extremist views," not all Muslims. Surely you can't object to our treating Muslim extremists--who have been known to be terrorists--as terrorists, right?
    The Tennessee law says "treat like terrorists." Are you good with that for Muslims who are associated with extremist groups, or who have expressed extremist views?
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    Kill yourself, Captain Weeboo. :wub:
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    Rage spiraling much? :diacanu:
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    Wouldn't it be a more accurate comparison to say, "Let's treat everyone who identifies as ISIS as terrorists"?
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    No, if for no other reason than resources are limited and should be concentrated on the people most likely to pose a threat. Somebody who merely expresses views sympathetic to extremism isn’t due any special attention until/unless they start taking a more active role.


    I think the idea is that Muslim terrorists and Nazi terrorists should be treated identically. Expressing views is one thing, participating in extremist activities is quite another.
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