"The 1980's are calling to ask for their foreign policy back."

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Here's how it works...

    Any other WFer- *Explains to FF why the Earth is round*

    FF- You've given me much to think about. :yes:

    Flat-Earth echo chamber- It's still flat. Cuz we say so. You don't want to be kicked out of your tribe do you? All right then. :borg:

    FF- :calli: *Posts flat Earth memes*
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  2. Tuckerfan

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    Balls. We were spending $1 trillion a year in Afghanistan at one point. Are you seriously suggesting that in less than a year we’ve spent not only the several trillion we spent on Afghanistan but also the billions we spent on Vietnam in Ukraine? Even the Russian oligarchs ain’t grafting that much.

    So, you’re saying that Russian oligarchs are better than American oligarchs. Why do you hate America?
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  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    That's cool, how much has Canada pitched in?
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  4. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You didn't watch the video.
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  5. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Some quick Googling (you're gonna freak out when you realise you can just ask your computer questions instead of getting everything fed to you through videos) suggests around 3.5 to 4 billion, or adapted for GDP roughly equivalent to the US giving around 40 billion.
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  6. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    Oh, for fuck's sake.

    Not only is he comparing total U.S. aid to Ukraine (military, financial and humanitarian) to military aid only to Afghanistan, he's hoping you won't notice that the Afghanistan number doesn't include what we spent on sending our own troops there for 20 years. The actual estimated cost of our involvement in Afghanistan is approximately $2.3 trillion.
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  7. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    You either didn't watch the video, or are being deliberately misleading in your description of it since you summarised it as:

    When the video makes the very specific point that he is picking out military aid provided, but not overall spending, and that there wasn't as much military aid provided o Vietnam and Afghanistan because the US itself was involved in the fighting.

    So which is it?
    Are you trying to be deliberately misleading (likely given you have said you lie in your WF posts) or just too lazy to actually read or watch the things you expect us to?
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  8. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    We gave 100 billion this year.
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  9. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Correct, the US is putting many other nations to shame in the amount of support given to Ukraine. The rest of us should be doing more both because it's the right thing to do, and because it would help undermine Putin's attempts to frame Ukraine as a US puppet.
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  10. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    In a perfect world, the entire planet would turn on him, and chant as one "Noooobooody looooves yooouu!!! Noooobooody looooves yooouu!!! :nyer:".
    But...the other tinpot dictators spoil it.
    :sigh:
  11. Tuckerfan

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    Of course not. Why should I waste my time on something that’s so obviously wrong?
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  12. Jan Jansen

    Jan Jansen Ukraine Feline Defense Force

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    Thank you for your support, dear Americans. Money well spent. Thank you, thank you, thank you. It is infinitely valuable and I am grateful to every American taxpayer. The stakes are incredibly high.
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  14. Jan Jansen

    Jan Jansen Ukraine Feline Defense Force

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    Thank you for that. Europe is weak, America is strong.

    Why are you crying? America is just showing the free world that nothing works without you and that you are still the big boys. Why are the right-wingers, of all people, crying?
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  15. Jan Jansen

    Jan Jansen Ukraine Feline Defense Force

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    Federal Farmer, you are a patriotic American, right? Proud of your values and all that?

    You should be damn proud that your country is once again leading the way and showing that you guys still got it. I don't get what your fucking problem is. America is just showing responsibility and greatness while the rest of the free world is failing.

    THIS is the time to be fucking proud of the USA! But I guess the so-called right in the US doesn't get that....
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  16. Steal Your Face

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    Jan Jansen Ukraine Feline Defense Force

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  18. Steal Your Face

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  19. Jan Jansen

    Jan Jansen Ukraine Feline Defense Force

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    So?

    Whoever cut the power supply did us a good turn. If it was the Russians themselves, good. If it was Western services: All the better! We don't need any more dirty energy from the Russian criminal regime. The Russians are isolated, and anyone who still sympathises with these assholes and sucks their dick and somehow appeases these low-life criminals should go fuck themselves and fuck off forever. American right wingers who still defend Putin should go fuck themselves. They are traitors and should fuck off to Russia. That you still have sympathy for these fucking pigs after everything that has happened is unbelievable.
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  20. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    And this is why my contention is to be a moral, good person you have to be an intelligent person.

    Because the propaganda machines are so overwhelming that people's entire identities are captured.

    The GOP is an extension of Russian foreign policy and has been since before Trump. We saw them compromise the NRA, compromise the corrupt politicians, then the media establishment itself that dictates what they believe, because by definition at this point if you regurgitate their talking points uncritically you are serving their ends. Hell, the alliance between Russian Orthodox church and Evangelicals, when the former was being blackmailed by the FSB since the late 1980s and the later is corrupt itself, such as Falwell.

    We saw Rand Paul protest against NATO and be called out by McCain for being a Russian asset, we heard McCarthy's voice on tape saying he believed Russia paid Trump and Rohrbacher, we saw Trump openly align himself with Russia including helping them with their attack on Ukraine, and we saw US Senators go bend the knee to Putin on the 4th of July.

    And yet some people still are captured, despite all of this data.

    Because they are stupid, contemptible morons.

    And that makes them traitors to boot.
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  21. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Posting facts is not the same as having sympathy. I don't have sympathy for Putin.
  22. Jan Jansen

    Jan Jansen Ukraine Feline Defense Force

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    In our country, too, this war has shown the true nature of many people. Upright, oh-so-patriotic "conservatives" have turned out to be fearful worms who would probably immediately lay down their arms in any conflict and leave the population to its fate. And former hippies have seen through their own rose-tinted world view and turned into hawks in no time.

    Interesting, revealing times, to say the least.
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  23. matthunter

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    And whores don't love their clients. They still have their dicks in their mouths.
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  24. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with dick sucking.
  25. 14thDoctor

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    Knowingly posting "facts" out of context so as to create a false narrative certainly suggests sympathy for one side.
    And yet you promote false narratives that support his goals. Perhaps that should lead you to reconsider where you're getting your information from. :shrug:
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  26. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    What false narrative do you think I'm trying to create?
  27. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    You also don’t post facts either so… :shrug:
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  28. 14thDoctor

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    Several people already explained to you how your posts attempt to create a false narrative about American financial assistance to Ukraine.
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  29. matthunter

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    Nothing unhealthy about dick sucking unless you're doing it on the cheap like you and the rest of the American Right.
  30. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Yes I do, you just don’t like them because they destroy your narratives.
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