"The 1980's are calling to ask for their foreign policy back."

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  1. steve2^4

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    Here's a dive into Putin's state of mind. It's a Vox interview of, "...journalist and author Marvin Kalb, [who] has loved Russia for almost 70 years. In the early 1950s, he studied Russian history as a PhD candidate at Harvard. In 1960, he moved to Moscow as a reporter for CBS News. He’s interviewed many powerful Russians. But he’s never talked to Vladimir Putin. To get insight into Putin, Kalb says, it’s better to read about him than to interview him."

    Kalb concludes:

    More at the link

    Reminds me of someone... someone less smart and powerful....
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    Moscow Outraged That Kazakhstan Becoming ‘a Second Ukraine’

    Moscow-based commentators who remain convinced that Russia saved the current government in Kazakhstan by intervening there in January (see EDM, January 19, 21) are outraged that the Central Asian country is not supporting Russia in the Ukrainian conflict but rather publicly taking positions that challenge all of the Kremlin’s claims. Some, like Regnum journalist Bogdan Bezpalko, are beginning to use increasingly bellicose language, such as calling the Kazakhs “little Nazis” and arguing that “Kazakhstan is on its way to becoming a second Ukraine.” Unless this large steppe republic that Russia has long counted on as its closest partner in Central Asia changes course, such writers argue, Kazakhstan will suffer mightily for its failure to support Moscow now (Regnum, April 1). Senior Russian officials have not yet used equally incendiary language, and there is little prospect that Russia, its forces already overextended in Ukraine, will move militarily against Kazakhstan anytime soon. But it seems certain that the Kremlin is equally outraged by Kazakhstan’s stance and, when it can, will take measures to try to force Nur-Sultan to change its position (Politnavigator.net, March 4).

    Russian writers have a long list of complaints about how Kazakhstan is responding to the Ukrainian crisis. They are upset that Kazakhstan has permitted pro-Ukrainian demonstrations while banning pro-Russian ones, angry that the Kazakhstani authorities have allowed their citizens to organize humanitarian assistance to Ukraine but not to (Russian-occupied) Donbas, and furious that instead of eliminating “Russophobes” from the government after January, the national authorities have allegedly brought more of them onboard and even allowed groups that Moscow views as anti-Russian to form new political parties (Regnum, April 1). But in the “patriotic” Russians’ minds, those actions pale in comparison to the remarks that Timur Suleymenov, the first deputy head of the Presidential Administration in Kazakhstan, made in a recent interview, during a visit to European Union officials in Brussels (EurActiv, March 29; Moskovsky Komsomolets, April 1).

    Speaking with EurActiv, Suleymenov rejected all of Moscow’s positions on Ukraine. He said that “Kazakhstan will not be a tool to circumvent sanctions on Russia [passed] by the [United States] and the EU,” that Kazakhstan will label what Russia is doing in Ukraine a war regardless of what Moscow says, that Kazakhstan has not and will not recognize Crimea as part of Russia, and that Kazakhstan is working hard to diversity its export routes so as to bypass Russian territory. The senior Kazakhstani official, who has the ear of President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, added that Kazakhstan does not want to be put “in the same basket” with Russia and that both its status as an independent country and its membership in the United Nations are more important as far as these issues are concerned than its membership in the Moscow-led Eurasian Economic Union and the Collective Security Treaty Organization (EurActiv, March 29). Suleymenov’s remarks suggest that Kazakhstan is perhaps further from Russia on the Ukrainian conflict than almost any other post-Soviet state, despite the fact that Moscow had clearly expected it to be among its closest backers (Thinktanks.by, March 18).

    Moscow is most upset by Kazakhstan’s positions on the war itself and the sanctions regime, but it almost certainly faces two larger, longer-term challenges there. On the one hand, Kazakhstan is now seeking, as Suleymenov said, to end the biggest leverage Russia has on that country. At present, more than 90 percent of the oil from Kazakhstan passes through Russia; but as President Tokayev’s deputy noted, the administration is working hard to change that, looking both eastward to China and even more to the countries of the South Caucasus. It recently signed an agreement with Georgia to expand trade through that region, bypassing Russia to the south (Regnum, April 1). And it is seeking to do the same thing with Azerbaijan, expanding its shipping capacity on the Caspian to make the achievement of those goals possible (Casp-geo.ru, March 12, April 2).

    And on the other hand, Kazakhstan is not only progressively resembling the other Central Asian countries but, in many ways, those of Europe’s East as well, at least as far as nation building is concerned. In Soviet times, Russians habitually referred to the federation’s southern region as “Central Asia and Kazakhstan” because the latter uniquely had an ethnic-Russian plurality. But due to massive Russian departures since the 1990s and a higher growth rate among Kazakhs, that is no longer the case; ethnically, Kazakhstan is on its way to being like the other Central Asian states, with the overwhelming majority of the population made up of the titular nationality. The Russian minority there is now too small to ensure that Kazakhstan stays forever in the Russian column (Pravda.ru, April 28, 2021; see EDM, September 9, 2021, January 20, February 17).

    Perhaps even more important, as Gulnar Dadabayeva, a Kazakh specialist on nation building, recently pointed out, Kazakhstan is becoming like Ukraine and other East European countries in that it, too, is successfully building a national identity based on culture, history and language rather than just on territory, as the Russian Federation has sought to do (see EDM, March 29, 2022). Those divergent patterns of nation building, she argues, underly the conflict Moscow has with Ukraine and point to similar problems in the Russian relationship with Kazakhstan in the future (CAA-network.org, March 25). To the extent she is correct, Kazakhstan is at risk of being a second Ukraine in a double sense, both as another country that is moving rapidly away from Russia and one that Russia is unlikely to be able to stop despite the threat these departures represent to its own self-conception.

    https://jamestown.org/program/moscow-outraged-that-kazakhstan-becoming-a-second-ukraine/
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    I think Twitter embeds are an incredibly useful tool, giving a summary of information, easily ability to click through, and easy embedding of images and videos.

    I also think that given the loading issues lots of them can cause, and the screen space they take up, spamming lots of off topic tweets to troll another member should be treated the same as any other kind of spamming.

    I've been overruled on that latter one.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Interesting thing I just learned, for the last month or so Wikileaks hasn't been accepting any data, with many of their services offline.

    Sure it's a coincidence that this happens while there is lots of material Russia doesn't want spreading.
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    Seek therapy.
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    Stop it with the images, for fuck's sake. They take too long to load on my AOL connection.
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    I work with several ladies from Kazakhstan. Dunno why. but there you go. They are very pleasant to be around.

    It looks like Russia has eyes on trumping up an excuse to invade.
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    I think it's time to overrule the others, supermod. Flex your wings.

    ETA: If I want to read tweets, I'd get a twitter account.

    Tweets are only as good as the person tweeting. In most cases it's from some unknown. I'd give them as much credence as the spam email that used to circulate in the '00s.
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    Would you say they are very nice?
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    Wikileaks has been a Russian asset for well over a decade now. Amazing how many people still deny it.
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    That is really pretty amazing.
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    The Cayman Islands is (in)famous as an offshore haven for ill-gotten gain from some of the world's slimiest characters. So I'll just leave this official Cayman Islands Government communique here in it's entirety and allow everyone to make of it what they will. :chris:

    Government Joint Task Force on Russia Sanctions Established
    Grand Cayman, 7 April 2022 In keeping with the Cayman Islands’ role as a global partner committed to helping maintain peace and security around the world, the Cayman Islands Government has established a joint task force to coordinate, identify, and implement policy amendments to implement the Russia Sanctions. The United Kingdom’s sanctions on Russia impact the work of multiple agencies throughout the Cayman Islands Government (CIG).

    The establishment of the taskforce was supported at the highest levels of government, with both the Governor, Martyn Roper and the Attorney General Mr. Samuel Bulgin noting that the mission of the cross-government team is “further confirmation of Cayman’s pro-active response to the sanctions initiatives.” The primary purpose of the task force is to provide centralised discussions and decisions around policy and communications arising from the ongoing sanctions. The task force is chaired by the Director of the Financial Reporting Authority, RJ Berry, with the Cabinet Office, as task force coordinator, facilitating and coordinating inter-agency cooperation, policy, and communications. Representatives from the following agencies comprise the task force:

    • Office of the Governor
    • Ministry of Financial Services and Commerce
    • Cayman Islands Monetary Authority (CIMA)
    • Financial Reporting Authority (FRA)
    • Civil Aviation Authority of the Cayman Islands (CAA)
    • Maritime Authority of the Cayman Islands (MACI)
    • General Registry Cayman Islands
    • Land Registry Cayman Islands
    • Cayman Islands Customs and Border Control
    • Cayman Islands Bureau of Financial Investigations
    • Cabinet Office
    The task force meets on a weekly basis to review development and determine actions that need to be taken by each agency, domestically and internationally.

    Of note, since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, more than 800 asset freeze designations of individuals and entities have been enforced in the Cayman Islands. In compliance with their obligations under The Russia (Sanctions) (Overseas Territories) Order 2020, numerous financial service providers (FSPs) have submitted over 400 Compliance Reporting Forms confirming that assets with an estimated value of US$7.3 billion have been frozen.

    FRA Director, Mr. Berry shared, “The level of reporting to date is indicative that financial services providers are able to identify funds or economic resources owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by designated persons and are freezing those assets or economic resources. The relevant agencies within the Cayman Islands also have a long-standing track record of responsiveness and cooperation with international counterparts, and will continue to maintain that record in our approach to the Russia Sanctions”.

    The recent amendments to The Russia (Sanctions) (EU Exit) Regulations are expected to be extended to the Cayman Islands via The Russia (Sanctions) (Overseas Territories) (Amendment) Order 2022, to come into force on April 14 2022. These amendments include new financial, trade, and maritime measures, and restrict specified financial services with the Russian Central Bank and other Russian Federation agencies. Sanction measures apply in the Cayman Islands in the same way they do in the United Kingdom.

    The Premier, Hon. G. Wayne Panton shared, “The establishment of this task force demonstrates the Cayman Islands proactive approach to compliance with international sanctions. Collaboration and coordination between our public service entities has resulted in swift, unequivocal action. Our commitment to robust regulations in the Cayman Islands financial services sector has ensured that we are able to contribute to international peacekeeping, global security, and good governance.” Echoing the sentiments of the Premier, HE Roper shared, “I am grateful for all the hard work that has gone into implementing Russia sanctions. This underlines the reputation of the Cayman Islands as a responsible and reputable financial centre working to implement the highest standards.”

    The Cayman Islands is monitoring the global situation and will continue to issue sanctions updates primarily via the FRA and CIMA circulation lists and websites as advised by the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office. The Cayman Islands Government stands ready to carry out the sanctions as extended by the United Kingdom.

    (ENDS)
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    Fuck Clinton. If you're at all remotely familiar with the history of various former Eastern Bloc countries, then their reasons for wanting to join NATO after the Fall of the Soviet Union should be obvious. And even if you wave a magic fucking wand and ensure that Russia is going to be a model democracy after the end of the Soviet Union (which it wasn't), then former Eastern Bloc countries wanting to be part of NATO should still be screamingly obvious.
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    The song is really horrible, but it's more the intention that counts.
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    After Richard Wright died, Gilmour and the others agreed that they'd not use the name Pink Floyd again (which is why when Waters and Gilmour toured together a couple of years ago, they didn't use the name "Pink Floyd"). If you listen to the complete discography of Pink Floyd, you'll notice that during the years when Waters was a member, that the same guitar part appeared in various songs on every album. On the albums released after Waters left the band, that part is missing.

    Waters, for the most part, was a fantastic lyricist, and the post-Waters Floyd albums haven't always been as good as what they produced when he was a member. But there are a number of tracks on David Gilmour's first two solo albums that are as good as anything Floyd put out when they were at their peak. Saying that this song isn't as good as what Pink Floyd put out (regardless of if Waters was there or not) is missing the point. Animals had five songs on the entire album. You can't dance to them, they're not as approachable as the ones on Dark Side of the Moon, but damn if some of them aren't brutal in how they criticize modern society. The same is true of The Final Cut (which Gilmour claims were songs rejected by the rest of the band for inclusion on The Wall album).
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    I saw Brit Floyd three years ago. Fucking awesome show. A good tribute band can be more entertaining than the "real thing". The last concert of the original four was interesting. Waters was having a grand old time (he was the one who begged everyone to play for a benefit) and the other three were gritting their teeth and going through the motions. It was still good, but uninspired. Brit Floyd has the luxury of drawing on the entire songbook without any worries about any potentially awkward internal political strains cropping up. FWIW, I thought the Division Bell was a worthy addition to their catalogue. :clyde:
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    Hey, I'm a hardcore fan of Pink Floyd and I also love the albums after Roger Waters.

    But this song is not exactly outstanding!

    David Gilmour is God! No comment on Roger Waters except that he was more of a confused political activist than a serious musician in the last decades.
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    Not sure how I feel about this…

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    It's sorta like with the Beatles after they broke up. All of them did some really good things, but they also all did some really shitty things (though none quite so bad as Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr). Had, however, you managed to get them all together for the best of each member's individual work, you'd have had something really spectacular.
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    Pretty clear that he didn't listen to Molotov Cocktease's commands during training.
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    Everybody could stand 100 chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them too!

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