The All Time Greatest Random Mass Shooting Thread

Let’s be clear here, what we’re talking about. Someone feels that they live in an area where they need guns to protect themselves because someone might break in and attempt to do them harm. Simultaneously, they think that if they’re not home, they have no reason to suspect that someone will break into their house and steal their guns. Because that’s what’s going on here. Seems to me that if I thought I needed guns to protect myself, I’d make sure that anyone who broke into my house, regardless of if I was home or not, had a tough time in getting my guns. After all, there’s no reasonable scenario where my life might be in danger if I didn’t have a TV handy, but there are a number of different scenarios where one might very well want to have a gun handy, so it would do me well to make sure that if I wasn’t around, nobody could get my guns.

There is no statutory requirement in the State of Alabama.

Am I correct in ascertaining that the last 3 pages have been a discussion about whether or not two white teens should have been shot just as if they were black kids?

the race details of the bonnie and clyde kids has not been revealed. The issue is whether the owners of the house the kids broke into should have had their weapons more securely stored.

I'm of the thinking gun safes or trigger locks should be mandatory.

Unable to change the world is not the same as content with status quo.

You don’t have to want/need/think to change the world. You just need not be content with the status quo. The whole Black Lives Matter issue is people who are not content with the status quo. They don’t want to change the world. They just want to be treated fairly. And that isn’t a bad thing.

If kids break into someone’s house, they will break into gun safes and trigger locks.

breaking into a house is easy. A rock will do it. Safes and trigger locks take more skill/tools.

And then make the correct display of my outrage, to inoculate myself against default collective guilt.

So either live in Fort Knox, or own nothing worth stealing.

Guilt?! You’re not catholic. What does guilt have to do anything?

If my mother arranged furniture in such a way that children should be careful when entering a particular room. AND, if my brother was being the normal ass that he always was, AND interfered with my maneuvering through the doorway safely AND I ended up stubbing my toe AND I later ranted about how boys are such assholes, would you feel guilty about that?

I truly do not understand the phrase “white guilt”, nor do I understand it being used as a defense as to why we would allow society to treat a segment of the population horrifically.

If you use the term “white guilt”, then that implies you not only accept the status quo, but you have actively engaged in activities that benefit from the status quo - otherwise, there would not be a need for you to feel guilt.

Have you met many kids?

Do you feel guilty about this?

US history is chock full of shit like this. This is why so many people are no longer content with the status quo.

Wait right there for a minute, Mr. Burglar, sir, while I open my gun safe, remove the trigger lock, and load my home defense gun. Be right with ya.

You are utterly certain that the world is now in some unalterable end state?

Owners weren't home. If they had been, they could have shot the kids and avoided the problem.

Lock your guns when they aren't close at hand.

I think what's being suggested is that guns be locked up while the homeowner is away....not that they not be easily accessible while the homeowner is home.

Sure, that's the reasonable interpretation. Not that I recognize the fact that I cannot wave a wand and cure society's ills.

If the front door was locked, any reasonable obligation on my part is satisfied.

But changing them requires you to accept you have some influence surely?

I recognize no obligation to demonstrate to strangers what I do or do not accept. That was the context, and you may feel free to re-read things if you are unclear.

There's no obligation to post here at all.

I just asked a question.

I do so adore it when someone tries to disguise their idiocy with pedantic douchebaggery.

The point wasn’t to elicit a demonstration (can a request to demonstrate also be rhetorical), the point was to invite the listener to explore their own thoughts, feelings, preconceptions, learned responses and behaviors.

It’s not about guilt or forcing you to behave in any way. At all. What so ever. No one is requesting you do anything.’

Hell, you don’t even have to do exploring that was originally requested.

But, you know damned well that if you saw something untoward, you would respond. It’s in your nature. You might as well be a vampire with a soul in that you always help the helpless.

WHY DID YOU LET FRED DIE @Uncle Albert??? WHY?

I agree in principal, but I've made it a habit to not just leave guns laying about in plain sight when I'm out of the house anyway...and all of them (that aren't going with me) go in the safe when I'm on a road trip. Better safe than sorry.

Ditto. Not in plain sight.

Gun accidents are the result of flaunting gun safety. Locking your guns when you're not cuddling them is reasonable.