I think Thomas Wayne was involved in some sort of cover up or was killed because he found out about some kind of cover up maybe involving the Penguin. Riddler is exposing the corrupt Gotham elites and somehow figures out Bruce Wayne is Batman. Batman and Catwoman team up to take down Riddler and she probably steals something that helps them out. It ends on a cliffhanger and probably a mention of another villain, but probably not Joker.
Clearly, there's some old secret at play in the new Batman film. And the secret encompasses Bruce Wayne's father (parents?) in some way. Hopefully, it won't be some silly thing where it turns out Thomas Wayne was an evil asshole or something, as it would undermine the whole premise of Batman. Batman: All along...it was...my father? My father! Riddler: Yessssss...now you see the truth! Batman: Oh my God! Riddler: Mm-hmm. Batman: OH MY GOD! Riddler: Let it out! Batman: My whole life... Riddler: Yes! Batman: ...it's a lie. A BIG F**KING LIE! Riddler: YES! Batman: So, maybe...maybe... Riddler: Mm-hmm? Batman: Maybe...it's good that he's dead. I don't have to fill this...this miserable hole in my soul...to...avenge him...any more. Riddler: That's right, Bruce. That's right. Batman: I feel like a weight has been lifted. I feel...human again. Riddler: So, what now? Wanna get a beer? Batman: Sure...why not?
Yes, but certainly not deserving of death. (Well, apart from the movie's "you get what you deserve" social commentary.)
"THE BATMAN" (2022) is 2 hours & 55 minutes long. Movies that long SHOULD have an intermission half way through like in the old days. Aside from that it looks like "THE BATMAN" will be a good movie.
3 hours is a long time, but a good 3 hour movie isn't a slog. Edit: If you ever want a duration challenge, try Jeanne Dielman, 23 Commerce Quay, 1080 Brussels, a movie that follows a Belgian housewife doing household chores for three days in mostly real time. I was skeptical but it really does become quite engrossing: she changes over the three days and the signs are in the differences that emerge in the details of her day. It's 3 hours, 22 minutes long.
I mean... He was rude to seemingly delusional son of the deranged stalker he had a few decades earlier. I forget if that was before or after an unidentified stranger accosted his son through the gates of stately Wayne Manor. Can't fault him for being cranky.
Gone with the Wind is just almost four hours long, Cleopatra is just over four hours long. The Godfather is three hours and twenty minutes. Titanic and Return of the King are just about the same running time. I could never sit through any of those without having to stop and take a break. The Green Mile is almost as long, and that one doesn't seem that long.
Giacchino has done some great scores, but I just listened to the clip posted in that article and it's total generic shite. This is the one and only Batman theme, as far as I'm concerned:
I was starting to agree but @ 2:20 the theme emerges and the church bells gave me chills. So, maybe... Elfman's 1989 score is pretty f*****g great, though.
The reviews are starting to come in, and they all look good. I mean, some of the critics are snots who can't resist getting their little "hymeh! " in at the end, but even the snots are begrudgingly impressed. https://www.darkhorizons.com/matt-reeves-the-batman-reviews-are-in/
NO SPOILERS - EXCEPT WHERE TAGGED Saw it. Yep, it's pretty damn good. Is it Dark Knight good? Well...no, but it's also very different. It is the darkest and most brutal take yet. The Riddler is probably the most psychotic screen Bat-villain to date, and he's chilling. Dano's cherub face makes the character even more unnerving. Stylistically very much influenced by David Fincher, especially Seven and Zodiac. Riddler even looks like Zodiac. Realism level is more or less the same as the Nolan films. The Bat-gadgets are mostly quasi-plausible. The cast works pretty much down the line. Even if you don't like this take on Bruce Wayne--the most damaged and haunted version yet--Pattinson's doing a great job playing him. And his Bat-voice works: low-pitched like Keaton's, not growly like Bale's. I liked the Batman is a little more detective-y. There's a nice bit at the beginning where we see criminals worrying about going into dark places. Voiceover: "They think I am hiding in the shadows. Watching. Waiting to strike. I am the shadows." The story threatens to destroy Batman's underpinnings. Though it's only PG-13 graphic, some of the implied violence is very extreme. The car chase sequence is fantastic. An action sequence lit only by intermittent muzzle flashes is f**k yeah! The sound design is tremendous. When the Batmobile starts up, you feel the rumble in your chest. The music by Michael Giaccino works. The main theme is REALLY growing on me. I liked the idea that Riddler's endgame is one of the more plausible grand scale bad guy plots. Negatives? Yes, it's a bit overlong. You won't get bored, but pee before you go in. Yes, it loses a bit of steam/gets a little talky in the third act, but rallies for a fairly epic conclusion. Surprises? There is a very brief post-credits thing; it's NOT worth staying for. 8.0/10. Don't miss it.
Seen it, still processing it. I don't know how to rank it against "Dark Knight" maybe an apples/oranges tie. Riddler is indeed the creepiest villain we've ever had. Don't think he's gonna be beloved. I think he'll probably rank next to Tom Hardy Bane in the popular consensus. This one is definitely the best one ever for capturing the tone and style of the modern comics. Batman/Bruce's inner dialog, the detective stuff, the look of the costume, the barrier between movie and comic has finally been kicked down. Agree about the car chase.
Saw it today. I had read a negative review that focused on how bleak and grim it can be, but I thought the final message was rather uplifting and optimistic. The review also said it was “no fun,” which I don’t agree with at all, but it’s possible a lot of the fun moments wouldn’t stand out to someone only casually acquainted with the Batman mythos. Overall really well done.
I haven't seen it, but of this I have no doubt. Paul Dano's a creepy motherfucker regardless of the role he's in.
Dude's just plain creepy looking. I mean, if you showed me that pic and said he had a bunch of kids buried in the crawlspace under his house, I'd be like "Not really surprising."
The first thing I saw him in was There Will Be Blood and I was like, "Yes, Daniel Day-Lewis! Bash his creepy face with a bowling pin!"
