The Don't Say Gay bill

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  1. Order2Chaos

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    Okay, I’ve only watched the first half of this, but I don’t see why anyone should have a problem with it. Identifying and shutting down stereotype expectations seems like a good first grade lesson to me. I think we had that covered in second grade, but it would have been fine in first. Is there something worse in the back half of the video?
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    A badge doesn't magically grant anyone infinite patience, either. A tiny bit of basic civility as a starting point is not an unreasonable ask.

    *edit* Almost forgot.

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    So when I was in fourth grade and our teacher was Ms. Hughes before spring break and Mrs. Bosch when we came back, was she "grooming" us?
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  4. Jenee

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    No, I mean, why do you think "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all ." But you know damned well that's not good enough anymore." is happening?
    why do you think teachers are "browbeating" 5 year olds not to act like assholes?
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    Wrong. That is exactly, or should be part of the job description. They put themselves in that position. If they demand absolute respect, they should fucking move to any of the countries the right wing accuse the left of supporting.
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    No, but she definitely was failing to keep her irrelevant personal crap to herself.

    And that's the point, isn't it? Nobody cares unlesd you force them, and what better place than a classroom.?
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  7. Jenee

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    Should she have continued to live a lie so some poor oppressed christian doesn't have to explain to their 4th grader that people are people and they need to accept that?
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    I didn't realize that "what the teacher's name is" was "irrelevant personal crap." You want 'em all to go by Teaching Unit #67502 or something?

    She was also our Spanish teacher, and she would tell us stories in Spanish about her cat, who was named El Gordo Gato. Personal? Sure, but we loved hearing about El Gordo Gato and her stories probably helped us learn more.
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    It is NOT just teaching them not to be assholes.
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    It is not living a lie to keep your private business private.
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  11. Diacanu

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    Y'mean white cis hetero people of certain financial means?
    Cuz I notice so long as Karens get their asses powder puffed, not a thing is said.
    When another group says "please get the boot of my neck" then the shrieking starts.
    The whole "reee!" thing is projection.
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    WHY do you think that?
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    Cuz the douche-bro on Youtube said so!!! :shakefist:
    And he said it like this! :shakefist:
    I'm not susceptible to suggestion though! :shakefist:
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  14. Uncle Albert

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    Yeah, and I didn't realize a name change is equivalent to "I now identify as a fire truck and my pronouns are the sound of a siren."
    :dayton:
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    I have explained why. You're just not paying attention. It's not just refraining from saying mean things. It's "Memorize 57 imaginary Tumblr genders and meow at me or you're a bigot."
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    How is insisting someone refer to me as "x" any different than someone else insisting they be allowed to refer to me as "x"?
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    No. People are just asking others to not be assholes. That's not being an asshole.
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    If I don't agree you're a fire truck, I have every right to tell you to fuck off. Unless I'm a student and the teacher threatens me with punishment. It's enforced entitlement.
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    Why do you have to take it to ridiculously stupid extremes? Why does it hurt you to call a person who looks, to you, like a man, to call him/her a woman? Honestly, what does it cost you? Except that you have to give in. You have to not be an asshole.
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  20. Diacanu

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    So, slippery slope to a literal interpretation of the attack helicopter joke.
    Man, you've gone...I almost said Federal Farmer stupid, but this is worse.
    This is some TheLonelySquire shit.
    Its damned near Tasvir level stupid.
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    People are too casual about imposing on each other, and I'm not having it. Especially when it's a setting where attendance is mandatory and you are expected to defer to the teacher's assertions as factual, rather than one side of an argument.
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    Cabin in Montana, fucker.
    Go there.
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    :rolleyes:

    Talk to me about slippery slopes when someone is punished just for saying the word "gay."
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  25. Diacanu

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    That's what the theocrats want, and they've been caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
    Where's your smoking gun or letting Hot-Spot become a teacher?
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    like "you're a girl. you should wear a dress. and put on make up. and fix your long hair"?
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    I have no idea who that is, but theocrats can also keep their fairytale wish magic out of the classroom. Which most of you will agree with until you realize it includes more than Christians being told to fuck off with their rules.
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    Also out of line. A teacher should have NOTHING to say about things like that.
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  29. Jenee

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    Exactly. But, they do. And this bill would allow them to continue to do so without reprucussions.
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  30. Diacanu

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    Post 592.
    Context and recall aren't your strong suits.
    No wonder you hate teachers.
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