The Don't Say Gay bill

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  1. Jenee

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    Before we do that, you’ll have to show where Jenee provided a definition of fascism.
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  2. Steal Your Face

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    http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3436031/
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  4. Steal Your Face

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    No.
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  5. Jenee

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    So, your reading comprehension hasn’t improved in the last 12 hours?
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    When all else fails, insult your opponent's intelligence.
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  7. Jenee

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    Better than your approach - continue saying stupid shit that makes no sense whatsoever.

    You’re a fucking moron.
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  8. Steal Your Face

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    Let me know when you've settled on what you think the definition of fascism is.
  9. Jenee

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    If I told you, you wouldn’t believe me anyway, But, I’m sure a smart fella like you knows how to google it if you really want to know.
  10. Steal Your Face

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    I don't want to know what google has to say about it, I want to know what you think the definition of fascism is.
  11. Jenee

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    Why?
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    All government edicts are not morally equivalent.

    Saying what people can and can't read: fascist.

    Using the power of the state to economically punish anyone with opposing views: fascist.

    Declaring that you should have the power to throw away any election results you don't like: fascist.

    Saying you can't pump toxic waste into the river or dump feces in the street: not fascist.
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  13. Steal Your Face

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    Because I've been trying all day to pin down what you think the definition of fascism is and you continue to dodge the question. Once we establish that, then we can move on with the conversation.
  14. Jenee

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    This is where I entered the conversation.
    So the onus is still on you. Do you think limiting the speech of teachers is fascist?
  15. Diacanu

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    You sure have.
    Log off.
    Go read a book.
    Play outside.
    Eat a piece of fruit.
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  16. Steal Your Face

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    Limiting speech is a tactic used by every political ideology. Every president we’ve ever had has done it. The most egregious example is John Adams with the sedition acts followed by Lincoln who shut down 300 newspapers during the civil war. That doesn’t mean I think they were fascists.
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    @Bill Carson since I'm answering all your questions in the other thread I assume I can look forward to you answering who it was that said that people would be arrested for saying gay.
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  18. Steal Your Face

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    Nobody on Wordforge as far as I know. That doesn’t exclude some random person on the internet though. I’d have to look it up. That being said, people here did imply that this law would make it illegal to say the word gay in Florida.
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    1. Implying is different than stating and is subject to individual interpretation.

    2. If nobody on Wordforge said such a thing then what was the point of your post? I clearly misunderstood it as making a point that the reaction was overblown, but if that's a mistake will happily respond to whatever point you intended it to make. :)
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  20. Steal Your Face

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    No, you correctly understood the point of my question. I apologize for any misunderstanding on my part. Maybe we can both agree that these statements from the left or the right, ie. Defund the Police, Don’t Say Gay, are hyperbolic?
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    I think I'm going to have to disagree with that. All those (except the last) are unquestionably authoritarian, even dictatorial, but fascist? Maybe they're important to fascism, but they're hardly unique to it, so I don't think you can call them fascist per se. Monarchies and classical dictators have done all of the above. Fascism's defining characteristics are around the explicitly-encoded hierarchical social structure with the glorification of the leader, and the unending (and unendable, lest the favored groups realize how much is being stolen from them) war on some scapegoat identities like Jews, gays, and/or trans people (ahem), much more so than on ideologies, as people can change their minds, but not their ethnicity, sexual orientation, or internal gender identity at will. These edicts are more like tools in the generic authoritarian toolbox. Their use alone doesn't tell you if someone's a fascist or not. All 3 were and are used by communists, kings, emperors, juntas, and generalissimos, as well as fascists.
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    Page 68 reminder:
    Subway had a pedophile for a mascot for 15 years.
    FF works at Subway.
    FF calls LGBT people groomers.
    Jared Fogle is straight.
    :teacher:

    We now resume the boring conversation about how many angels can dance on the commas in the dictionary definition of "fascist".
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  23. Jenee

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    The real question here isn't is something hyperbolic . It's do you know what you're talking about when discussing the subjects? If so, who gives a fuck if the 3 word slogan or 8 second soundbyte is hyperbole? The slogan and the soundbyte are not the issue. the issue is the issue. Discuss the issue, not the slogan/soundbyte.
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  24. Steal Your Face

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    Says the guy who doesn’t even have a job. Oh and I’m a chef at a local vineyard. I haven’t worked for subway since the late 90s.
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    What's your specialty, chef
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    Oh, so you would call what you do with the boy a discussion? And you complain about his fucked up definitions?

    I am seeing some huge similarities between your mental capacity and the boys.
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    A royale with cheese, or as us commoners call it a quarter pounder.
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    God fucking dammit, Dayton. :brood:
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    I mean who hasn't gone for a wank near a playground when they're stressed...

    Oh no wait, only pedophiles do that
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