The Impeachment of President Donald J. Trump

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  1. We Are Borg

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    This.
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    We both listen to a lot of NPR.
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    So does my cat.
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  5. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Well, if somebody said something once (Romney is at risk) then it must be true. What a newsflash. What passes for "news" on leftie sources isn't even fit to wipe asses any more, its rancid propaganda for idiots and fanatics.

    Meanwhile a leftie in Florida goes (more?) berserk and drives his van through a GOP campaign tent, gets out of the van to take pics of handiwork, and drives off laughing maniacally like the joker (last clause is fake news), and it gets zero coverage in leftist media - like it never even happened. Real news gets no coverage - one CPAC representative makes a crack and it's rises to 'newsworthy.'

    America's experiencing arguably the greatest period of peace and prosperity in a century and the Dem debate is the most pessimistic tirade ever expressed.

    If I was a leftie, I'd double check my filters (before the next shrink visit).
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  7. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't follow much leftist media, but assuming you mean the so-called mainstream media, there's been plenty of coverage of this. Stop lying.
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  8. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    I just googled "GOP campaign tent" and the first four entries were (in order):

    Washington Post
    FOX
    TIME
    WSVN7

    Other than FOX I've no idea about the political affiliations (if any) those outlets have.
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  9. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    It doesn't necessarily mean he's actually at risk, but the "somebody" who said it was the Chairman of CPAC. How is that not news?

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  11. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Took a few days? Not a lie if I didn't see it, and heard otherwise about the negligible or non existent coverage.

    Trolling is not newsworthy unless (1) a credible threat, or (2) furthers an agenda. There's actually real shit happening in the country. Less inflammatory or sensational, but far more relevant to the lives of Americans.

    Conservatives don't resemble Antifa. Sure there are *some* extremists or skinheads associated with the "right," but the right consistently disavows and repudiates them, and last I heard David Duke is a fan of Rep. Omar and dislikes Trump.
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  12. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    So it wasn't newsworthy because Schlapp was just trolling while being interviewed on a news program? Should they have just edited that part out?
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  13. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    I'm a bit confused about this "largest period of peace and prosperity in a century".

    Have you experienced a war which wasn't overseas this century?
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  14. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    A few things where Trump is clearly *not* conservative - tariffs instead of free trade, and stricter immigration policy instead of open border for cheaper labor. Trump's obnoxious demeanor and rudeness also don't represent the conservative ideal.

    Against that, Trump's been a glorious giant middle finger to the vested interests in DC establishment. And of course the peace (Dems are consistently more pro war, excluding "neocons"), and prosperity (great jobs record and unskilled wage spike, and growth while still lackluster is markedly better than recent trendline).

    We've had 3 years of some very conservative policies: strong support of US Constitution, supports the military, supports the cops, and playing by the rules, and the importance of a job, promotes personal responsibility, demands free speech, pro free religious expression, disagrees with Governor Blackface*, all very conservative positions.

    Meanwhile, also some policies *not* typically associated with conservatives have substantially improved life for historically disadvantaged groups: blacks (prision reform, opportunity zones, funding HBC, reducing immigration and illegal aliens most benefits the poorest workers, record low unemp. levels), and very positive for the LGB community (major funding to eliminate AIDS, strong policy against Islamic states' brutal anti-gay laws, besides that Trump was the first US president ever elected who supported gay marriage).

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  15. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Maybe he was just trolling.
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  16. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Do democrats tend to be more pro war yet anti troop, constitution and cop?

    I genuinely don't know, if for no other reason than "left" and "right" have notably different meanings there to here.

    Record low unemployment is good but hard to attribute to Trump definitively when it is consistent with a pre existing trend, which we've gone over before without you having a satisfactory answer.

    If, however, immigration is good for low income employment how do you square that with the fact immigration reached alleged crisis levels during Trumps first term AND unemployment continued going down?

    LGBTQ people seem to disagree with your assessment of their improved conditions but I'll leave that for them to argue given they have far more insight into the situation than you or I. Not sure his stance against ISIS really matters much on the home front but as he withdrew the troops and let ISIS off the leash I'm not at all sure about that one either.

    Still wondering about this "longest period of peace". When, in modern times, has America faced anything but peace at home?
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  17. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Just searched - can't find it on CNNs website. Didn't see it on CNN when it happened. Retract my apology - I don't think it's gotten anything but 'below the fold, buried at back' coverage, if any. Certainly based on past media coverage of fake violence ("Romney at risk at CPAC"), this actually violent potentially fatal incident apparently merits little-to-no coverage. My original point stands.

    Exaggeration of Romney story beyond any justification considering the "content" of story (no credible threat, some guy trolling/speculating), while ignoring an actual story because it doesn't further leftist or anti-Trump narrative.
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  18. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/08/politics/police-investigating-trump-volunteers-targeted/index.html

    Why do you keep saying "some guy". It was the Chairman of CPAC. It was literally THE guy who dis-invited Romney suggesting that's at least one of the justifications for why he dis-invited him. :wtf:
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    LOL, Trump is against AIDS because he described it as his own personal Vietnam. It gets in the way of him fucking bareback. Well that and the fact the condoms keep falling off.

    Islamic States? Sure, their anti-gay rhetoric is why he hates them. Is he hitting the Saudis over this? No, he won't even hit them over carving up a journalist because "we do a lot of trade with them". He talked a big game about Saudi Arabia BEFORE he became POTUS. Since then, the most gay-friendly thing he's done is gargle Bin Salman's dick.

    He supports gay marriage? That's nice. His government has rolled back protections for LGBT federal employees, sought to limit access to medication for transitioning teens, backed bathroom laws against transgendered citizens.

    Oh, and the fact you left the T off LGBT wasn't a mistake was it, you hateful cunt?
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  20. Damar

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    Northam was referring to a situation where an infant is delivered with severe, fatal abnormalities. You say Trump disagrees with him. So what is Trump’s solution in these tragic circumstances?
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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  23. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    You're right, that's why I read leftforge.

    Maybe a thousand important things happen a day, maybe a hundred are reported by any particular agency that day, with maybe 20% of those 'stories' getting 80% of air time or attention. And generally it's the most divisive items that 'go viral,' I'm used to that.

    I'll try to mock less what the corporate press selects as clickbait and empty calories when imo it's not even a "story" let alone worth reporting about. Just stands out is all. Hannityesque.
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    When was the last time a high profile politician was dis invited from such an event on the basis (partial or otherwise) that there might be a threat to their safety from their own side?
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    What Tuttle has just admitted, of course, is that he doesn't personally think the threat of violence against a major political figure by his own party for daring to vote against them IN A DEMOCRACY... is a major story.

    Which, really, just tells us he should probably be on a watch list.
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  26. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Sadly that seems to be the case.
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    I used to think I was conservative -- and I probably am, by French standards -- until I found out what modern American conservatives stand for. And realized that I disagree with the conservatives, very strongly, on a large number of points. - Async

    French standards? :unsure: shouldn't you be out in the street torching cars right about now?
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    Countdown until certain undead types start explaining to us why punishment is justified.
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    I'd also like the Trumpistas on this board to explain, in detail, how Trump's behaviour on this matter and the Stone prosecution differs in any way from the actions a tinpot dictator would take.
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  30. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e418adfc5b6bb0ffc166ba2/amp

    HuffPost even has it. There's no cover up here. Since thankfully nobody was injured, that makes it quite a less compelling story. What you're experiencing might be something akin to cognitive dissonance, finding some portion of the media that does not reflect your preferred narrative a source of frustration.
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