The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is a hero

Sorry, I can't buy it. What goes on in the jury room is up to the jury. Perhaps we could get a ruling from @Raoul the Red Shirt on this.

ETA: Here's a link to a discussion which echoes your points, but it also shows that some of the problems are because of differences in the time and place.

My understanding is that they are limited to the facts of the case as presented. If the woman's eyesight was not called into question during the trial, jurors cannot presume that the woman has bad eyesight. It's the job of the defense to bring all relevant facts that dispute the prosecution's charges to the jurors.

However, judges always caution the jury that they are not required to check their common sense at the door. Blurry distinction to be sure.

ISWYDT.

I assume juries are allowed to consider things outside the evidence presented since nullification is a thing that's allowed. "This law is bullshit, you should let the guy off even though he's technically guilty" can't be something lawyers are allowed to say in open court.

Does anyon know what IL public health laws are like?This guy is 16 serial killer. I dont even mind them holdingn him in a psych facility max security toi.,

defense atturneys have been prerjruing themslves too.

The law is presented via the jury instructions, but it’s not evidence.

Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges

Next Story: Jell-O is wobbly.

Awesome. Justice prevails.

Yeah, the verdict was never in doubt. Left or right, that power fantasy of shooting up some bad guys like John Wayne or Dirty Harry or The Punisher or Travis Bickle or Neo or John Wick (or countless other characters) is so deeply engrained in the American psyche that no jury would ever punish one of their fellow citizens for living out that dream.

Lol

Yeeeeees, let the bitterness flow.

It ain't bitterness that's gonna flow, it's blood. There will be rioting tonite over this verdict.

I'm not bitter, that's honestly how I saw it going from the beginning.

Do I think the law was applied correctly here, such as it is? Yes.

Do still I think it's a fucked up situation in general, including how the laws are written and framed? Yes.

Do I admit to having those same sorts of "mow down the bad guys" fantasies at times probably due to too much exposure to American entertainment? Also yes.

I wonder if the judge will make sure to give Kyle his gun and ammunition back before freeing him to run directly into the sea of protesters sure to be outside the courthouse?

Either way, that's how the inevitable movie about this should end.

That you celebrate the death of two people you don't even know is more telling of you than Rittenhouse's actions. You're pathetic.

Wishful thinking on the part of the racist right wing who is trying to use this to own the libs. Sorry to Paladin and the right, but this was not you winning the civil war you wanted.

Still, if there is an actual riot I suggest the proud boys, Kyle, ansd you all cower watching faux news in your homes because the only thing the left should have learned is shoot first and claim self defense. Just seems to me the violent little kid with a gun was a threat to their lives and had any one of them blown kyle away instead of giving warning shots this would have all been much different.

Ah . . . excuse me, you do know that Rittenhouse and his three victims were all white, right? The racism involved in this case is (1) the motivation behind the rioting, which were a protest over the police killing of a black man, and (2) the kid gloves Rittenhouse was treated with at all levels of the judicial system.

I'm not celebrating anyone's deaths. I'm celebrating that an obvious case of self-defense prevailed in a politically motivated trial.

I hope Kyle falls down a flight of stairs and lands in a pile of shit. Let the little Nazi taste his soul.

It was not obvious. What was obvious was that he killed two people and maimed another. That you think that is justifiable as self-defense and should be celebrated speaks volumes about your character.

It was to many of us. And to a lot of people who tuned into the trial and learned how much the distorted the case to suit a narrative.

The jury agrees with me.

Imagine Rittenhouse was black. Would you have more sympathy for him in the exact same scenario? Is being chased by an angry white man a real threat? Is being attacked by members of a white mob a threat?

Obvious? The defense did an excellent job of putting the reasonable doubt case. It was not self defense beyond a reasonable doubt, but it didn't have to be. The lead defense attorney was terrific in the post trial presser. He and his team did their job without theatrics. I'd be happy to have him represent me. It looked to me like a fair trial and a reasonable verdict was reached. That doesn't mean I like it, but the issues were so muddled that getting a conviction was going to be extremely difficult, even if the prosecutors hadn't made any mistakes. Contrast that with the Arbery where the defense attorneys were whining about the presence of high-profile black preachers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

The jury was hand picked by the defendant. So, pat yourself on the back all you want. You're still not a good person.

Black people get shot for bringing anime swords to the park, walking around a store with an Airsoft rifle in a state where open carry is allegedly legal, or slowly reaching for their insurance papers as directed.

Black Rittenhouse wouldn't have survived walking past the first cops he saw, they'd have turned him into Swiss cheese instead of giving him a water bottle.

This is Yahoo News from a few minutes ago...

This is unbelievable.

What would a reasonable person reading this picture? Does it bear any relationship to the demonstrable truth?

No, it doesn't.

A person reading this is bound to see it as a random mass shooting event and it is not.

The media is lying to you.

This. We don't have to imagine a "if Rittenhouse was black" scenario, because a 12 year old black kid, Tamir Rice, was shot on sight by police for waving a toy gun. We know what would have happened, just like if it would have been BLM that stormed the capitol on 1/6. There would have been a military presence waiting for them. There would have been mass casualties.

It's fortunate for Rittenhouse he was white, and that he had a white supremacist judge waiting to protect him.