The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is a hero

A quick Google Maps search shows that it's roughly a 22 mile drive from Antioch to Kenosha and it takes roughly 33 mins.

I think you are getting me wrong because I completely agree with you. He went there to get into conflict. I think he went there to be a bad ass vigilante. I am totally fine with convicting him of that crime. If that is not a crime, then we need to make it a crime because buying a gun does not make you a LEO.

Please remember I am not the normal dumbass redneck trying to get this punk kid off. His actions were deplorable. His motives were unjustified. Every reason for him being there should be something we punish and admonish. However, it is clear from the video he ran away. It is a fact he tried to surrender to police because he was trying to get to a safe place because he was scared. He only shot the people who were close to him. He attempted to retreat rather than standing his ground. He fired out of fear of being assaulted and killed. I thought it was different until I saw the video.

If there are charges for rioting, I say charge him because he clearly was part of the shooting and violence. Charge him with shooting near houses and over roads which are crimes in many states. This was clear self defense because the casualties were the people chasing him down to assault him. They had no business chasing him down. He did not shoot people who were just standing around or even people who were yelling insults. He shot the people who charged him and ran him down when he tried to run away. That is self defense. I will even give him the credit that he was under enough self control to not shoot the antagonistic people who were threating him verbally but who did not chase him down.

I know he went into the situation talking trash, but his actions were obviously not the same thing as he said out side of the CVS and on social media. If there is a menacing charge I am all for it, but this was self defense.

The only video I've seen is of the second victim. A crowd is chasing him... but why? The Reuters video states that he had already shot and killed someone. Why did he shot the first guy?

It's been verified that 80 to 90 percent of the violence last summer were all right wing idiots attempting to discredit the BLM movement - yes, verified and most have been arrested and charged. Notice, after Rittenhouse finally killed 2 people and injured a third, protests after that went on with little or no reports of violence. Right wing idiots shit their pants when shit gets scary.

There are videos before showing rosenbaum's death. Rosenbaum is a hyper violent antagonizer who chases kyle down across a parking lot.


Here is part of that video. There are expanded parts that show the rabid nature of rosenbaum at the time, and you might want to actually view all the video available as it changed my mind when I saw it.


Yes, I know the source is suspect and you really might want to do some digging yourself. I really don't want to put a lot of effort into playing lawyer for the boy. That is on my scale of effort and not others.

You dont need assault wepaons to defend yourselkf https://www.nationalreview.com/2021...k-to-criminalize-constitutional-self-defense/
medical exmainar said it wasnt self defense

How would the medical examiner know? "Self-defense" or "not self-defense" is outside his scope.

You are talking about that as if it's a long distance or something. My daily commute to work is 1.5 times farther.

https://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/...tifies-in-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-125780037725

The medical examiner is not qualified to state an opinion on whether a gunshot was in self-defense or not.

I don't think I did. I was merely refuting the notion that KR was a victim of happenstance. He purposefully went to Kenosha and took an AR-15 with him BECAUSE he wanted to be a part of the racial turmoil going on there. Claiming he "didn't want any trouble" seems disingenuous to me.

Yeah, I'm thinking it's more of a general hostility towards the prosecution/general sympathy for defendants than anything specific to this case.

This. It would be different if he lived right where this was happening. But he made the choice to grab a gun and made the choice to travel to the protest--whether it took him 20 minutes or an hour to get there, he made the choice to travel there to insert himself in the situation with a gun in hand. That is not self-defense, that's creating the problem in the first place.

Correction: Rittenhouse's gun was always stored in Kenosha at the house of his buddy who made a straw purchase for the underage kid, for which he's facing his own set of charges.

That's driving center to center. They're considerably closer at their borders. Antioch is effectively a suburb of Kenosha.



Google Maps says Brooklyn is 5 miles from New York City when, in reality, they're only separated by the Brooklyn Bridge.

Yep. My commute is about that far, and it's been farther in the past.

"I'm sure that's the case."

Being a former resident of IL, I'm pretty sure AR-15's are banned there and a lot of people on the border towns do engage in straw purchases like that. I can't prove he drove there with the gun, so I'll concede that point, but I'm skeptical.

Yup, it's the shitty day camp equivalent of those bored Western kids that went and joined ISIS so they could shoot people and own sex slaves. Murder fantasy tourism or live action Grand Theft Auto LARPing or whatever the actual term is.

I live in Pleasant Prairie - right next to Kenosha. I'm in Kenosha at least once a week. I lived in Antioch a couple years ago. I also work about a 20 to 30 minute drive from my apartment. Yea, it's far enough away that Rittenhouse's only reason for being in Kenosha was to cause trouble.

Antioch and Kenosha are both suburbs of Chicago. I grew up there. That's not to claim any familiarity of either place. I think I've been to Antioch twice and the Great America theme park a dozen times or so. All I can remember about either place were racial tensions being on the higher level and being glad that I'm not there now.

Anyway, without knowing exactly where KR came from in Antioch and exactly where the racial turmoil was in Kenosha, the exact opposite of what you propose could be true. He could've started at the southwestern boundary or Antioch and went to the northeast of Kenosha... and that might make the 45 minute drive I read about more plausible... But I don't think in any scenario that an "8 mile drive" is true.

No. It definitely fucking is not.

The closest part of Antioch is less than seven miles from the closest part of Kenosha. Antioch is effectively a suburb of Kenosha.

The shooting happened at 60th and Sheridan in Kenosha.

That's about an 18.2 mile drive from Antioch's center.

That's nothing.

Even if you disagree with that characterization, the two are very close together.

They are not.

So, when someone says "he crossed state lines," what they mean is "he went to the nearby big town where the trouble was at."

Nice try. But, Rittenhouse didn't fly. He was driven. So the two points (best I could fiture out by your map) is still 7 and a half to 8 and a half miles.



But, that point is Antioch township. Not, Antioch. With no idea where he lives or lived, for purposes of this discussion, the closest suburb considered to be Antioch to where the protests took place is at least 30+ miles away.

There's no age limit for buying or owning an assault weapon, or rules for transferring those weapons to minors?