The Omnibus P01135809 Criminal Investigation Thread

But here's a curveball: running for the same office (the Bush family a good example) does seem shady but what if they run for the opposing party? For example Chelsea Clinton running as a Republican? That would be interesting. Funny Demiurge mentioned Hunter having a law degree when some of the Fox News folks have law degrees too! Maybe that law degree isn't the watermark of being qualified for much except being an actual functioning lawyer. Something to think about.

No, I think this is a moment to be careful of bullshit propaganda. The 'elite military school' is a boarding school for rich high school kids. Yes, he went to an Ivy League. How? His sister is on tape saying he paid another student to take his entrance exams. And the sociopath that he is he lied about being first in his class. And lied about being part of the prestigious MBA program there, which he did not attend. One of his professors is on record stating he was one of the dumbest kids ever to go through that school. Even with this odious cheating, he does NOT have a postgraduate degree. Biden does.

Even then, you could say that it would be reasonable for Trump to have a six-figure income in New York just based on the degree he cheated to obtain - which is the criticism of Biden that OF put forward, that he didn't deserve even that.

Hunter Biden is no paragon of virtue, but then that wasn't the question. He has had success both educationally, in private business, and in his foundation work.

Meanwhile, back in Florida (AKA Trumpistan) the Florida Legislature has cut a gambling deal with the Seminole Tribe that has some very interesting fine print.

The legislation includes a 30-year compact with the Seminole Tribe of Florida, negotiated by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), a Trump ally. The compact includes a provision barring the tribe from interfering should the state issue a gambling license to a facility more than 15 miles “in a straight line” from the tribe’s Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Hollywood.
Trump’s Doral resort, which he purchased in 2012 and then spent an estimated $250 million renovating, is slightly more than 15 miles away.
Trump’s son Eric Trump, who has managed the company since Trump entered office in 2017, told The Washington Post in March that Doral would be a natural fit for a casino.
State Rep. Michael Grieco, a Democrat whose district includes Miami Beach, said he doesn’t know who put the 15-mile language in the compact.
“That line, I don’t know where it came from, but I know why it’s there,” Grieco said. “It removes one of the major hurdles that someone would need to jump in order to make a gaming license in Florida portable, and specifically for two or three people, including the owner of the Fontainebleau and our 45th president.”
Sen. Jason Pizzo, whose district is in Miami-Dade County, said he’s tried to find out why a 15-mile buffer was included in the compact given that locations such as Disney World have much larger buffers between themselves and potential casino sites. He said he couldn’t get a direct answer from the bills’ sponsors.
“I asked, ‘why is it 15 miles, which puts it in my district, where Disney gets a 100-mile buffer?’ ” Pizzo said. “I said, ‘If we made it 30 miles, would that be okay? Who came up with 15?’ I didn’t get an answer.”

See T. Roosevelt and FDR.

But what's your proof of this? Ivy League schools have a "legacy program," which means that it doesn't matter what one's personal academic record might have been because a close relative of yours attended a particular university, you're guaranteed a slot. I make no claims in regards to how smart Hunter might be in comparison to Trump and/or his spawn. My point is that just because the offspring of a particular political figure did X, that doesn't mean they're actually capable of the task. They might very well have gotten lucky simply because of who they were related to.

And at least some of Hunter's private sector work can be tied to who his father was. This isn't to say that Hunter couldn't perform the task, but if you think who his father was didn't factor into Hunter getting the job, then you're being naive.

And if I had my druthers, nobody would be able to run for the same political office that a relative of theirs had. I wouldn't care if it was dog catcher or POTUS. Political dynasties are a bad thing, IMHO, so anything that prevents them from happening is a positive in my book.

All you need to know about legacy presidents is that Dayton loved them.
Course, his ass literally didn't understand why we shouldn't have a king, so long as he was Republican.

Proof of what, exactly? Is Hunter Biden someone with privilege that your or I don't have? Absolutely. Does that mean the man is incompetent, as OF suggests? No, it doesn't - indeed, if you assert that, that is what requires proof.

For the record, Hunter wasn't a legacy - Joe went to the University of Delaware and then Syracuse.

He also didn't get into Yale on his first try. His advisor sent him back to Georgetown, also a very prestigious university, and then he transferred in after a year.

As the bar was a six figure salary, that doesn't seem to be something someone born into privilege with good grades graduating from elite universities would have much trouble doing.

Pretty much everyone I know that's Biden's age that doesn't have his connections and education have reached that particular bar.

Yes, Hunter Biden has access that you or I don't. Of course that matters. But his credentials are excellent. The assertion that he isn't capable of being competent at a job is what was my point. Yours is something else entirely.

If you have any proof that he cheated to get where he was or that his professors and coworkers believed him to be a failure, feel free.

My point is that someone who is the child of a rich and/or powerful parent isn't necessarily going to be capable, or well-educated just because they went to a prestigious school. And that doesn't even require the parent to pull any strings (or bribe people to get your kid admitted). I mean, if you're a college professor, would you want to give a failing grade to a Senator's son? Sure, Senators' kids are probably a dime-a-dozen at a place like Yale, and since it's a private university, it doesn't necessarily need government funding, but then again, it can't hurt to be on good terms with a Senator who also happens to sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee (or whatever).

There's a number of former college athletes who've described how they never had to worry about academics while they were in college because the school wanted them to focus on playing sports. If they're going to do that for an athlete? What are they going to do for a kid who has a parent in politics, or is very wealthy? Mind you, this doesn't mean that the kid didn't learn anything while in college, but it could be that the kid was given chances that you or I wouldn't get. Extra time to turn in work, or special tutoring, or what-have-you.

Saying that Hunter Biden (or any kid of a politician/rich person) went to XYZ school, and thus must be smart, is predicated on the assumption that said school treats all students equally. They don't. And while I've not heard of any professors or coworkers saying that Trump's spawn are "fucking morons," I think we can all agree that Teh Baba is way the fuck smarter than them, regardless of what kind of educational background Teh Baba might have. We have to get away from this idea that somebody is automatically qualified because they went to this school, or are related to this or that famous person.

Yes, their parentage, or their educational background, might indicate that they're a really cool frood who knows where their towel is, but it might also mean that they've been given a pass their whole life and are actually dumber than a sack full of wet mice. Again, I tell you that I am utterly opposed to political dynasties because it is just too easy to handwave away bad behavior by those people as they're related to such-and-such "and obviously must share the same beliefs." No, the fuck they do not. One need only to look at the histories of various royal families and realize this. (Not to mention that inbreeding really does bad things to people.)

I misa baba.

Well, that's great then, because nowhere did I say that. I literally said he had the right qualifications. Go read my post again.

And I’m saying that just because he went to said school doesn’t mean that he’s at all qualified to do the job.

It does mean he's qualified - he has the right qualifications.

But not everyone who is qualified is good at a job. Just because you have a Master's degree in Economics doesn't mean you'll be good as a broker.

The thing is, one can point to various things that Trump failed at (basically, everything he did that was not self-promotion/the Apprentice/movie or TV cameos) and at least raise questions about whether he was qualified for the roles, if he did actual work, etc.

Where's the evidence that Hunter Biden served in any sort of "no work" job or failed to have the basic level of qualifications for the jobs he had (factoring in of course that he undoubtedly had doors open that might not have been if he was just Hunter Smith with the same credentials but not the famous father).

Looks like the Manhattan D.A. has a grand jury going on the Trump Organization

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...47911c-bcca-11eb-83e3-0ca705a96ba4_story.html

You may be familiar with the old saying that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. I wonder if Trump is more a mayo or mustard person?

Dunno if this one is too old an offence to go anywhere?

Yeah, makes sense - Kraft and Brady love the guy.

But then, he's attracted to the odor of corruption and actively interferes for the corrupt, so naturally the Republicans made him POTUS.

Stormy Daniels says her attorney is in contact with prosecutors investigating Trump Organization

Scaramoosh, Scaramoosh, can you do the fandango?

Trump Organization expected to be charged with tax-related crimes on Thursday

Until this case, I didn't even realize that corporations and other non-natural persons could be criminally charged.

This administration has been pretty educational...

PG&E pleaded guilty to 85 counts three years ago.

Those assholes should also plead guilty for getting people confused with PGE

Are they still around? Didn't they also get ripped a new one back in the 80s?