The Omnibus P01135809 Criminal Investigation Thread

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  1. shootER

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    Biff wants to push the J6 trial to 2026. :lol:

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  2. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Notice how there are no attempts to deny or argue against any of the actual charges.

    There's attempts at false equivalence, or to make up conspiracy theories about the motivations behind the charges, but actually looking at the charges and evidence makes it too hard to defend so it's avoided entirely.
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  3. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Just in time to claim it's in an appropriate time because it's close to midterms!
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  4. shootER

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    As Tom Nichols pointed out in one of his articles this week, neither Trump nor his co-conspirators nor his followers are, in large measure, denying anything in either January 6th case. They are simply arguing it wasn’t illegal.
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    Could be a problem for prosecutors who usually want to prove there was a crime and this asshole did it. They may have to first convince a jury that there actually was a crime. :spock:
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  9. Fisherman's Worf

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    ^This dude fucks.
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  10. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    The third (and increasingly likely) possibility is that he has a public humiliation kink. Which I suppose is a bit of a mix of #1 and #2.
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  11. Nova

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    I'd argue Trump has a natural talent for fascism without even understanding the concept. And authoritarianism.

    He sees what everyone from Hitler to Kim did to be a "Glorious Leader" and it seems naturally attractive to him and he lacks a healthy mental/emotional state that would restrain him from aspiring to that position.

    Those surrounding him, guiding his animal instincts, Miller, Fenton, Epstein, et al - THEY are knowing, intentional, committed fascists. The combination of his raw instinct and their knowledge and craven machinations - along with the reality that something between a quarter and a third of Americans WANT an authoritarian government (from their tribe) and that's where it gets ugly.
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    "Lastly, Trump didn’t have the media on his side, they’ve been against him ever since he came down the escalator in 2015."

    Objectively the most hilarious statement I've seen (among those not intended to be humorous) that I've witnessed in...maybe a decade?
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    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Someone speculated that part of Trump's calculation regarding his public statements is that he knows full well that he's fucked either way so the only possible way out is to somehow rally enough support to either be elected or create a full bore rebellion in his name.

    The third option of fleeing the country is maybe the smart play but he's not smart and he can't accept the perception of weakness that would come with that. He's gambling the judge doesn't have the resolve to lock him up pre-trial.
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Ivana said that Trump kept a collection of Hitler's speeches 'My New Order' in his bedside table and frequently read them before going to bed. It was the only thing she routinely saw him read.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...fe-ivana-trump-vanity-fair-1990-a7639041.html

    John Kelly, Trump's 2nd Chief of Staff and former General, said that Trump openly talked about how he admired Hitler on the trip to Normandy where Trump refused to get rained on to go to the commemorative event for D-Day.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/07/trump-praised-hitler-to-john-kelly-new-book-claims.html

    Yeah, I'd say the fascism claim is based.
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  17. Diacanu

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    And his daddy Fred taught him eugenics with race horses as the example.
    Which I brought up in 2016, and Oldfella hand-waved it away like he did the pussy tape.
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    LOL, racehorses? They're as inbred as fuck. No wonder Trump has designs on banging his own daughter.
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  19. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Wow, the need to non-deny that he has a book of Hitler speeches by saying he would never read them if he did...I don't have words.
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  20. Steal Your Face

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    All of those news organizations are right wing. In order to get people on your side, you have to have the left wing media on your side as well. The only thing that CNN or MSNBC likes about Trump is he brings in ratings.
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  21. Diacanu

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    Point is, there's no such thing as "the media".
    It could be argued there's been no "the media" since Rush and his radio copycats shat onto the world.
    Fox just added pictures.

    "The media" is a just a conspiracy/hate dog whistle.
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    A former colleague/mentor who used to work in Houston made shirts that said "Blame it on the Media" and sold them at the 1992 RNC when it was held there. :lol:

    He was sold out by the time I got there. :(
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    What's that saying, "When you can't attack the information being presented to you, so you attack the source."
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    Oh I can attack the information being presented too. Democrats have challenged every election that they have lost and not one indictment came down. Trump took every legal action to challenge the election and had good reason to believe it was rigged, because Democrats have believed the election was rigged in the past. The media declared Biden the winner before all votes were counted. That should be enough to show that he truly believed the election was rigged. Never mind the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop.
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    He also stands accused of taking a number of illegal actions to challenge the election. You can bleat that this is a political witchhunt all you like, but when there's this much smoke you'll have to excuse those of us who think there's fire, too.

    And wasn't Trump saying before the election that if he lost, surely that meant the election was rigged? That doesn't sound off any alarm bells for you? Think about that line of reasoning for a minute.

    Wait, I'm sorry, don't let me interrupt your deep-throated defense of Trump. After all, you're "just asking questions."
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    The 'Stop the Steal' movement was registered with a trade mark in early 2016 by Trump ally Roger Stone. It was always Trump's plan to grift off his stupid supporters. He just didn't think he'd win.
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  27. shootER

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    Biff went into office while paying off a literal fraud lawsuit, so perhaps this isn't the "political witch hunt" that FF and the rest of MAGA are screaming about. Maybe he's just a criminal, and always has been.
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  28. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    In other criminal rapist Trump news:

    Judge cites Trump's 'advanced age' on why they can't delay E. Jean Carroll's 2nd defamation suit (you know, after she won the first one and he immediately defamed her again the next day on Twitter).

    I like this tact. Can't delay, you might die before you pay for your crimes. Well done, Judge!

    https://www.rawstory.com/e-jean-carroll-trump-2664055326/
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  29. Thoughts and Prayers

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    Or maybe that fascist Biden just wants to imprison his biggest political enemy, and is willing to prosecute actual crimes in order to do so like some kind of jerk. Hunter Biden! Rigged! The media!
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  30. Diacanu

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    There's that term again.

    Conservative media is media.
    They're not "plucky little rebels against the status quo" anymore.
    Haven't been for a long ass time.
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