The Steve2^4 Memorial Random Tweet Thread

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  1. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    if what you say is true, then whitewashing american history is actually singling it out for special treatment.

    You just said we should not single american history out for special lies and treatment about their genocidal and racist history.

    The stupid pills are rotting your brain. Can we inform the police that UA and Paladin have been giving a minor stupid pills from the Dayton Kitchen's supply?
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  3. Steal Your Face

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    We could start by stop pretending native tribes weren’t engaged in slave trade and “stealing “ other people’s land long before Europeans arrived.
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    Got it. One "Cherrypicked Selections From History Carefully Curated to Avoid Making White Conservatives Feel Butthurt" curriculum, coming right up.
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  5. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So you don’t want kids to learn history?
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    For a supposed history major you seemed to have missed a lot of high school history. Not to mention common sense about humans. That was something I recall from history class, and given there were tribes of all sorts I just assumed they participated in territorial battles and many chose to participate rather then be enslaved by the white racist slave traders.

    Either history major does not mean you passed, or you are really eating those stupid pills in quantities you shouldn't. Maybe it is both? Maybe you are lying about being a history major?
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    You just claimed history lessons were pretending that never happened, and now you want the kids to learn that history?

    Your lies are terrible. Could you make them better, or at least somewhat consistent? I am good with teaching kids what happened in context to the slave trade being forced by white supremacist peoples who considered tribal people of color to be lesser human beings to be exploited.
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    History is a massive field of study. Since you're not demanding that eighth-grade social studies curricula be revised to include the kings of the Rashtrakuta dynasty, the origins of Chinese calligraphy, or courtship practices in medieval France, I can only conclude that your sudden interest in very specific topics stems not from a burning thirst for thoroughness, but from something else.

    Namely, desperate deflection in an attempt to safeguard white conservatives' delicate baby feelings.
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    Who is pretending otherwise? I thought you were a history major? Do you even realize how woefully ignorant you sound?
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    Pretty sure the only Greek and Roman history, 8th grade and below, learn is in connection with mythology. But, we are in the US, so everything is about religion.
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    I just want to ask the same as Jenee, who do you feel is pretending that?
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    People on the left who scream about how horrible America is but don’t acknowledge any other atrocities that have happened elsewhere. You know, like the douche bag who tweeted that crap out and @Shirogayne who posted it here.
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    Are the people who were enslaved by native tribes still being marginalized today?
  15. Steal Your Face

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    Yes.
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    Please, expound. Which group of people were enslaved and are currently being marginalized.
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    Blacks were enslaved by Native American tribes for example.
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    Blacks?

    And, Black Americans are still marginalized today. As well as Indigenous People. So ... bonus question, who is marginalizing both groups here?
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    The Government.
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    And who is The Government? In respect to the United States.
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    I’m not responsible for what the government does so I’m not accepting collective guilt.
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    The fact they didn't mention a separate thing doesn't mean they're pretending it didn't happen, just that it has less relevance.
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    Do you vote?
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  24. Steal Your Face

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    Yes, still doesn’t make me culpable for what the government does.
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    I think it’s very relevant to combat the Blame America First crowd.
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    Except it does nothing of the sort.

    No-one is saying that since they had slaves they were the worst people to have ever lived in history, however it does undermine their position as moral authorities whose words should be treated as gospel, and also serves to provide context for ongoing social inequalities.
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    Maybe you should take Elwood up on his offer to teach a civics class.
  29. Steal Your Face

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    That’s what I was waiting for. Someone brings up the founding fathers, usually me and someone else, usually you, says something to the effect of, “you shouldn’t worship them or take their words” or something like that. I don’t worship them and I don’t take their word as gospel. This is the whole reason why I bring up other cultures because I do think context is important. We need to understand that in the 18th century it was common practice and perfectly acceptable to own slaves. We also need to understand that the authors of the constitution and the Declaration of Independence did understand that their words were contradictory. I think Jefferson did d write privately about it. They even made efforts to put an end to it. They could only do so much. We also should understand that other cultures at that same time also had slaves and had little to no thought about their freedom or the freedom of others. Maybe the founding fathers weren’t these evil men that some try and paint them as and maybe the US isn’t the evil country that some try to paint us as. You’ll get no argument from me about misdeeds from the government, but as a whole, I think we do attempt to do good in the world. Is it all altruistic? No, so what? No country is like that.
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    Yeah, I'm not gonna eat Trix either :flow:
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