Time for a .357...

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  1. Volpone

    Volpone Zombie Hunter

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    OK. On my wish list are an M1911 and an M4, but because everything else seems so overpriced, wheelguns are an option for the collection.

    I wouldn't mind a nice SAA (or two--one blued with wood grips for everyday wear and a pair of stainless with ivory for if I ever need to become a daring and resourceful masked rider of the plains. ;) ), but what I'm really pondering right now is a .357. :drool:

    As much as I'd love to own a Colt Python or a nice, classic S&W, right now I'm leaning heavily towards a blued Taurus with a 4" barrel.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Don't know if you friended Anne or not, but she put up this picture on Facebook showing our current living arrangements.

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    It didn't take long for people to notice and comment on the item in the foreground! The comments especially were gold since most of her friends are from the PNW :lol:

    >No... this can't be. No. I refuse.

    >Ummmm....How bout that pistol in the foreground. Don't mess with these folks in their gated community!

    >Especially when they're hopped up on Gatorade!

    >is this where I get to sleep when I come visit? Can I request a gun free room?
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    .357 is a classic round IMO.
    Much stopping power combined with accuracy...can't beat it!
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    How can you deal fear to your enemies if they don't hear the c-o-l-t click of a good SAA? :ramen:

    I have a Taurus SAA and love it to death. If their .357 models are of similar quality, you won't be disappointed.
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    You know, I bought a Smith and Wesson 640. If it weren't for the fact that I wanted a .357, I would feel stupid. The truth is if you have a 9mm +p+, you can get very similar performance.

    Study of the .357 reveals that it was fully developed using .38 casing - a round that had originally been black powder. They made it longer so folks wouldn't put it in old revolvers and blow it up. For it's length, the round is underpowered. :(

    I wish I would have bought a 9mm first but I didn't. Oh well.
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    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    For a 1911 you can go with a Taurus model. Great price and features. Im thinking of selling my Beretta PX4 (in .40) and going with a Springfield Armory XDm. The .40 is a great round and for me I luvs the magazine capacity. As for M4/AR prices, if you look around (I.e. dont blow your time or money at a gun shop) you can get an LMT or a Charles Daly Defense or a Smith & Wesson M&P AR for a good price. All three of those weapons seem to represent the best in balancing quality components and value.
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I gotta go with Ramen. Get the best of both worlds. Get a SAA in .357. Then load up on .38 ammo to plink with. I actually wish I'd done that instead of insisting on getting my SAA's in .45LC.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yeah, but can a .357 shoot down the Batwing?

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    :D Now that I got my own place my mom came up this weekend and brought up some of my stuff. That is the .44 my Pawpaw gave me when I was born.
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    if you are gonna go for a Taurus, get the Tracker in .44 mag, relatively inexpensive and it doesn't kick as much as you'd think.
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    I bought a Colt Python not to long ago, smooth action.
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    I don't want or need a .44 mag. I'm not planning to kill any 1967 Buicks any time soon. And I can't shoot .38 ammo in a .44 mag.

    [The Colt Python is a nice gun. I would be very happy if someone gave one to me. But for what you get they are way overpriced. ]

    [Same goes for a nice Model 27 S&W.]
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    allright then, yes, Python's are WAAAAAY overpriced ($1,000 avg) but make sure you are getting a Taurus and not a rossi, i put about 100 rounds through my Rossi .357 and it Locked up
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    Magnum .44 best weapon of all time.
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    Well, my assumption may have been incorrect. Saturday I made the rounds and hit 3 of the local gun shops.

    The first one had a S&W that they said was an LA highway patrolman's. If so I would assume it was a Model 28. When I mentioned that the guy looked at me like I was from outer space. Strike one. (Actually strike one was when I came in and the guy looked at me like I was interrupting his valuable sit around and be bored time, but I digress.)

    And of course since it was an S&W, they were asking almost a grand for it. Now $1,000 isn't an unfair price for a S&W .357 in good shape, but to tell the truth, if I have a choice between buying a gun for under $500 and buying a gun for $500 and paying another $500 for an "S&W" engraved on the side, I'll skip paying for the name. Strike two.

    And the kicker was when I mentioned that I'd been looking at some of the Tauruses. ":actormike: You don't want a Taurus. We won't even sell them. " Aaand you're out. It was nice talking to you.

    On to the next store. They had maybe a half dozen .357s--one big honkin' chrome one with a 7" vented barrel, one snubbie, and the rest cowboy-style Rugers. :garamet: I'm on my way out the door and run into one of the salespeople. He asks if I'm finding everything and I mention what I'm looking for and that they don't seem to have it. "Try to find ammunition. :marathon:" "That bad?" "Go see what we have for ammunition." "Huh. I was hoping that wouldn't be as big a problem with revolvers." "Try to find ammunition."

    :wtf: Did you malfunction or something? It was like the guy was a robot on Star Trek that Kirk had just had a conversation with or something. On to the last store.

    I had the closest thing to a normal gun shop experience at the last store. It is a little place, hidden but on a major street, a couple blocks from my house. They didn't have any .357s either, but I had a nice conversation with the guy behind the counter and with one of the customers. And the owner offered to get me one if I wanted to order it.

    So I don't know if this has anything to do with buying a .357 or not, but it definitely has to do with guys that work at gun stores in Portland being a bit odd.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Are you checking out the the classifieds I sent you to over at NWFA?


    I have a used Smith and Wesson Model 66, 357 Magnum. Satin-finish stainless steel.
    2.5" bbl, round butt, click adjustable rear sight, ramp front. Condition is very good.
    I have been looking for a Lady Smith for my wife to maybe trade for. If I don't find something for her, I'm asking $450.00 for the #66.

    http://www.northwestfirearms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10616
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    Its a lot of gun stores nationwide. Many of them dont know customer service from squat. THis has actually been discussed in the industry and how the shops need to be more customer service orientated. As for the 2nd shop you went to, it may have seen like a strange conversation, but he was trying to make his point.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Why should they care about customer service? With all the hoops you have to jump through to get an FFL, then the startup costs that go along with a gunshop, it's not like they have to worry about competition springing up anytime soon.



    The only way to fix the situation is to repeal the Gun Control Act &NFA IMO! :bergman:
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    Thanks, but I have fairly particular tastes on what I want. I'm looking for a modern-style .357 (not a Ruger Blackhawk or other SAA-looking one), with a 4" barrel, blued. Ideally with wood grips, but I'd settle for rubber.

    So basically the Taurus. And it isn't a drop everything NEED to have it thing. It is if I've got some cash burning a hole in my pocket and the right deal comes along.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Put up a WTB add and see what kind of hits you get.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    So basically you want this:

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    But blue, and with the woodgrips put back on it?
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    Ah, the gun shop. It's hard to find one that doesn't have a douchebag or "former FBI/Navy Seal" *cough* bullshit *cough* wanting to tell you a story they half made up - half read somewhere.

    I would definitely check out Gunbroker.com and use their FFL locator to find a pawn shop that won't rub their balls all over it when they get it in.
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  23. Ramen

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    Oh, and about ammo... that's the same for any caliber. The only ammo you're going to find in ample quantities at the moment are shotgun shells.

    Your local gun store might have some, but that's probably because they bought up the whole counter at Wal-Mart and marked it up 35% on their's.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yep... The Walmart here has instituted a one box per visit rule, but that still hasn't seemed to help. Everytime I'm at the store I wander to the back... sometimes I'll get lucky and they'll have something in a caliber I need.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I found .45 ACP, 9mm, and .223 (as well as .45-70 :diablo:) ammo a week ago and it wasn't too expensive.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    DIAF :garamet:
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    I would have had my 600rnds of 9mm this week, and my 600rnds 380 next month, but I had to take myself off the backorder list. Fuggin' house! :garamet:
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    I have no problems whatsoever obtaining 7.62x54r rounds
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Sure. You're one of three people on the whole continent that actually wants them. :nyer:
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    7.62 x 54R?

    I fart in your general direction.

    7.62 x 51? Yes. 7.62 x 63? Hell, yes. 7.62 x 39? What the hell, it's cheap fun.

    But 7.62 x 54R? Blech.