Time to establish equality in roads?

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  1. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    I am.
  2. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Posted whilst in a snark and quickly retracted.

    Please disregard.
  3. Ten Lubak

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    Mostly, yes

    I would also add incompetent
  4. 14thDoctor

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    Pont of order: I'd say that most government employees are competent and energetic at least when they start, until the they get their life force drained by the red tape put in place by elected officials acting in bad faith.

    I remember when the Canadian IRS used to have counter service. One year I moved and lost all my tax slips and I was able to get them printed for me in five minutes by a friendly old man When I had a tax question the next year, I waited in line for ten minutes to have it answered in person. Next time I needed something, the Conservatives had eliminated counter service, so you had to phone in. Then they reduced the hours for the phone lines. Then they laid off a bunch of employees. Now it's a three hour wait to speak to someone that maybe knows the answer, if I don't get randomly disconnected before then.

    A friend of mine got laid off due to covid in 2020 and received their CERB benefits with no problems, no issues, money deposited promptly. They got laid off again in 2021, now they've been waiting four months to receive any CRB money at all while the CRA does a "previous year income verification" by looking at the pay stubs they had to send in, even though their T4 was more than enough proof when filing their tax return. It's not like the employees in the benefits section suddenly all became pieces of shit overnight, the only difference is in how Trudeau and his idiot buddies decided they want the two different programs to operate.

    Ugh, now I'm just angry. :mad:
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  5. Ten Lubak

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    I would agree with that but also add that it is very, very difficult to get fired from a public sector job:

    So that, coupled with a nice big pension waiting for you definitely ups your "not giving a fuck" factor by quite a bit

    Must be nice!
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  6. 14thDoctor

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    I believe the catch there is that a lot of employees are retained on a term basis, so if they don't get renewed it's technically not a firing. I had a friend that worked for Service Canada, she was a term for years and years. At one point they only offered her term renewals for three months at a time, she was constantly panicking because she'd bought a house after her supervisor told her getting a permanent appointment quickly was a sure thing. :shrug:
  7. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    A not uncommon trick here is to offer rolling contracts which are individually a day short of the period at which mandated holidays, sick leave, etc allowances get enhanced.
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  8. Bickendan

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    So, now that ever square cm of road is tolled this Year of Our Ford, do I still have to pay is elect not to drive and ride a bike?
    If so, can I walk instead, or are all the sidewalks tolled as well?
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  10. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    In fairness, he's right. Government accounting procedures are absolutely insane. I moved almost a quarter of a million dollars worth of funds today with a ten word e-mail. But, it's taken me three weeks to get a $0.75 crash bar dogging key approved and ordered.
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    Does that mean that government is too slow to fire people, or that corporate America is too quick to do it?
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  12. 14thDoctor

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    Government also has some pretty thorough hoops to jump through before you're offered a job, especially a permanent one. I've looked at some advertisements and they're usually something like "application deadline is January 1st, successful applicant to begin work June 30th."
  13. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    So can anyone who is in favor of all 4 million+ public roads being toll roads explain how it would be logistically and financially feasible?
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  14. Jenee

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    So, typical transactions. whether government or corporate. So, no He's not right.
  15. RickDeckard

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    Oh, this old canard. The idea that private-sector entities are a bastion of efficiency and free of unnecessary bureaucracy is a laugh.
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  16. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Well see, what you'd do is have this one big corporation manage all the little ones, and get all the profits into one big kitty, and dole it out to the other little guys, and instead of having toll booths, you'd make everyone pay a bill on a certain date say, April 15th, and....oh, wait....
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  17. Diacanu

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    Also, something, something, outrage culture.
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    Not what I claimed. In fact, my view is that any organization, private or governmental, that reaches a sufficient size will inherently become inefficient, choked with process, and corrupt.
  19. Jenee

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    And, yet, that's not what you said.
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    What about road neutrality and last mile access?