Trouble in America

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  1. Diacanu

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    Man who wore Joker mask while setting CPD vehicle on fire during May 2020 riots gets nearly 3 years

    O’Donnell’s case is among the most high-profile to result from the rioting and looting that took place here in the wake of George Floyd’s murder. Its notoriety is due in large part to the jarring images of a man in a clown mask amid the chaos that day.
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    The Pilsen man who set fire to a Chicago police vehicle while wearing a Joker mask amid the city’s May 2020 riots has been sentenced to nearly three years in prison.

    U.S. District Judge Andrea Wood handed down the 34-month sentence Wednesday to Timothy O’Donnell. Because he has already been behind bars for two years, the sentence likely leaves O’Donnell with just a few months left to serve.

    “He set a car on fire in the middle of a crowd,” Wood said. “He did it in a way that was intended to target law enforcement. He did it in a way that could have caused serious injury or death. Fortunately, it did not.”

    O’Donnell’s case is among the most high-profile to result from the rioting and looting that took place here in the wake of George Floyd’s murder by then-Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin. Its notoriety is due in large part to the jarring images of a man in a clown mask amid the chaos that day.

    And though a prosecutor said otherwise, O’Donnell’s defense attorney insisted that “he paid the price for wearing that mask that day.”

    Before he was sentenced, O’Donnell apologized “to those whose businesses were left in utter ruin” and said he was sorry “if I hurt Chicago’s character in any way.” He said he was “ashamed of myself that I became involved in the problem and not part of the solution.”

    Prosecutors said O’Donnell served as that day’s “poster child,” adding to its chaos “for no reason other than to live out his own fantasies.” They said he recorded footage of the protests on his tablet before setting fire to the CPD vehicle, casually joking at one point that it was a “beautiful day for a barbecue.”

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    Federal prosecutor say this photo depicts Timothy O’Donnell in the Joker mask.

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    But defense attorneys Michael Leonard and Steve Greenberg wrote in a court filing that O’Donnell “is entirely unlike the persona of him created by his wearing of the Joker mask,” which had been a birthday present. They wrote that O’Donnell “is a thoughtful, creative, intellectual, and nonviolent individual,” and that his mother was “a longtime member of law enforcement.”

    O’Donnell admitted in a plea agreement last February that after approaching the unoccupied CPD vehicle in the 200 block of North State on May 30, 2020, he “used a lighter to ignite a piece of cloth that he placed in the fuel filler” or gas tank of the vehicle. The area around the gas tank then ignited, and the fire spread to the vehicle’s interior, according to the plea deal.

    But O’Donnell’s defense team seemed to walk that back in their court filing. They wrote that “Mr. O’Donnell did not succeed in his efforts to place a rag inside the gas tank and light the vehicle on fire. He failed.” Rather, they wrote that video “clearly demonstrates” that “another individual threw an object or accelerant into or at the vehicle, and as a direct result it went up in flames.”

    Assistant U.S. Attorney James Durkin acknowledged during Wednesday’s hearing that “there were other people” who made the fire worse. But Durkin said O’Donnell “started it.” And the judge pushed back against the argument while speaking to Leonard.

    “He set a gas tank on fire,” Wood said.

    Leonard explained that there were “literally dozens of people trying to destroy that car,” but “no one’s being punished except for Mr. O’Donnell.” He even argued that O’Donnell shouldn’t be forced to pay the full $58,000 restitution owed to CPD. The judge didn’t agree.

    The defense attorneys pointed, as expected, to the separate case of Jacob Fagundo, a School of the Art Institute student who admitted setting fire to another Chicago police vehicle during the riots on May 30, 2020. U.S. District Judge Robert Gettleman gave Fagundo three years of probation. Meanwhile, O’Donnell has been in federal custody since June 2020.

    O’Donnell’s attorneys wrote that there “is absolutely no principled basis whatsoever for anyone to argue” that additional prison time is appropriate for O’Donnell, given Fagundo’s sentence. Wood said that, “at the end of the day every sentencing is an individual decision,” and she noted that Fagundo had no criminal history, unlike O’Donnell.

    Leonard said after the hearing that he was “disappointed” in the sentence, but he noted it was far less than the 46 months prosecutors had sought.

    Prosecutors charged O’Donnell on June 2, 2020, after investigators tied him to the incident through a “PRETTY” tattoo seen on the neck of the person wearing the mask. Video provided by a witness showed O’Donnell wearing the mask, holding a lit object and placing it in the gas tank of the CPD vehicle.

    A photograph taken by a witness also showed O’Donnell handling the gas tank, according to the feds. In another, O’Donnell appeared to be sitting on the ground, wearing the Joker mask while the vehicle burned.

    A third photograph apparently showed O’Donnell posing in the Joker mask in front of the burning vehicle. In that one, the tattoo that says “PRETTY” can be seen on the neck of the person wearing the mask. A CPD photo of O’Donnell revealed the same tattoo.

    A family member told law enforcement that O’Donnell lived in a room in an apartment in the 700 block of 19th Place. Authorities obtained a search warrant and searched the apartment. The feds say they found a Joker mask in a bedroom.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/...chicago-rioting-timothy-odonnell-george-floyd
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    Lots of style points for wearing the cool mask. Minus several million points for the fires and vandalism.
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    He set fire to a police vehicle? That's not so bad.
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  5. Jenee

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    He’s an art student at the Art Institute of Chicago. Of COURSE he set fire to a police vehicle.
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    One of these days these american domestic terrorists ar really going to scar america. It won't be some huge riot or mass shooting. It is going to leave a scar, and I am not talking something that can be easily wiped away like ground zero NYC. Faux news and the radical right media are how you coordinate a large number of terrorist cells within a country without direct commands. To stop a white nationalist from getting to something vital in america is near impossible without some horrible atrocity of security.

    It is inevitable. I do not know when or how, but the right has started the process and it wont be stopped until the horror level is so insane it changes the world and scars the planet.
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    2 years later. And this event takes place at the church that was in all the photos …. On fire or surrounded by fire …. I don’t know who won the election for the new county sheriff, but there were at least 10 people running. Beth pissed off the last of his supporters with the way he handled the riots.

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    How nice to live in a time when an innocuous term like "equity" now comes with a load of bullshit political grievance culture baggage.
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  10. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    LOL! Whiney McBitch attempting to call others out for grievance culture when that has been his entire shtick for two decades is *chefs kiss*.
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    Get back to me when I blame my problems on you and demand a solution, tinkerbell. :finger:
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    The word is not “innocuous”, it has meaning. And the only load of political grievance and culture baggage comes from those who don’t wish to understand another person’s point of view.
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  13. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Why tinker bell? Does using the name of a femine character suggest some sort of weakness on his part?
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  14. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    When it's a bunch of entitled, perpetual victimhood horseshit, where every negative outcome in a person's life must be accepted as 100% due to unfair circumstances and never the result of personal choice, I check the fuck out. I have no interest in relating to that mentality, and I see no virtue in ignoring individual nuance in favor of collective generalizations.
  15. Uncle Albert

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    Because he's just so cute and sparkly. :wub:
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    If a person cannot even get to the point of “personal responsibility” or “pulling themselves up by the bootstraps”, then it definitely is victimhood.

    This next part, I want you and every other white male here to understand, I fucking know you were born after the effects of white male privilege had been cemented as the foundation of our current existence. But, that doesn’t mean any attempt by the underprivileged to “pull ourselves up by our bootstraps” means you must now be dominated.
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  17. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Who's saying that?
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  18. MikeH92467

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    I fully expect no response. :waiting:
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  19. Uncle Albert

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    To the same douchebaggy tactic of "who made that verbatim statement" when I made no such claim?

    Gonna pass on that silly little game. He doesn't live under a rock. The oblivious cherub routine is tired.
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  20. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Bullshit, you gave that as your reason for checking out and dismissing it all.

    Well aware that's what you think people are saying, however it doesn't mean it's what the majority actually are.
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    Ah, see. "The majority." One example. Ten examples. Not enough to avoid being dismissed as fringe group outliers. This is why I don't bother.
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    This is why some of us don't bother with you. :ramen:
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  23. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I'll be happy with just the one that made you think that is the claim being made.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    If I dismissed all libertarians as racist kooks because of Ron Paul's magazine writings I'm sure you would agree it's foolish to use outliers to judge and dismiss a whole line of thinking.
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    UA's tongue is likely working this guy's taint sooo hard right now.

    Asked about this, another GOPer refused to say it was racist, only that he would have "put it more politely".
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    Nope. "None of the above" is now and shall always remain a valid choice.
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