UA voting tangent

I guess the Jesus visitation wore off.

Either Jesus visitations are like a mild case of Taco Bell runs, or TR's next dream had Reagan's ghost who set him back to the path of assholery.

Besides documented evidence of Biden being very touchy-feely (which is arguably creepy and weird, but hardly criminal), I haven't seen any hard evidence that he's a rapist. Accusations alone are not enough. Nor should they be in any civilized society.

A lot of the Biden hate I see is simply sour grapes that Sanders, Warren, etc. didn't win the nomination. Look at all the whining about the DNC 'anointing' Biden despite the voting results that suggest otherwise. People believe what they need to believe--we're all guilty of it at one time or another.

You can lay the blame for the sour grapes at the feet of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her blatant anointing of Hillary and locking Bernie out in '16. Bernie supporters remember that, and some are oblivious to - or maybe nihilistic about - the dangers of another four years of Der Drumpfenfuhrer.

I say this as a fervent Bernie supporter in '16 and a Warren supporter in the run-up to this election. What the nihilists neglect to consider is that (A) Biden's choice of running mate is important and (B) a Biden Presidency would include the offer of Cabinet posts for Bernie and Liz.

I remember the nihilist "revolutionaries" in the Sixties. "Burn it down and start over!" Of course we were all 17-18 at the time, unable to vote until we were 21, and "bone spurs" were not a viable deferment for working- and middle-class kids.

Even then, I wondered, "Burn it down and replace it with what?" Never did get an answer.

"All of this has happened before..."

I have no love for the DNC (or DWS, for that matter), but I could understand their dislike of Bernie both in '16 and this year. The man isn't even a Democrat but was blatantly trying to ride the party's coattails to the nomination. What the hell did he expect?

Personally I thought his ability to work across the aisle was more important than a label.

Can he really work across the aisle, though? How much has he actually accomplished in Congress over the years? And based on his platform, no Republican who wanted a shot at re-election would have even spoken to him in passing. I like the guy and a lot of his ideas, but the Sanders administration would have been dead in the water from the word go.

As for the 'label' thing, being a registered member of a political party is more official than being a 'socialist' or an 'anarchist.' Bernie came across as opportunistic and a little fraudulent to me. If he had run as a third party candidate, I probably would have been more supportive. Labels may not have been important to you, but they were obviously important to him.

Or he knew what some of his more fanatical supporters didn't - that a third-party candidacy, especially positioned to the left of the DNC - would have siphoned off votes and possibly resulted in an actual win for Donnie-boy in '16. (Ross Perot may not have gotten Clinton elected, but he sure had an impact on GHWB's chances.) Despite Donnie-boy's plummeting "ratings," there's an even greater danger now.

Anyway, Bernie - like Dr. Fauci - is a Brooklyn boy, and Brooklyn boys don't always make good team players.

Well if you're not a team player, you probably shouldn't expect that team to have your back. Sanders probably understands that, but many of his supporters seemed to expect the DNC to roll over for Bernie. Why would they?

I agree completely. "Bernie or Bust!" is just another variation on the Sixties barricade mentality. IMO, Bernie's savvier than that, and he's been doing his damnedest to speak reason to his hardcore "fans" - i.e., fanatics. What he's been up to since he was free from campaigning positions him to be a good advisor, a power behind the throne, so to speak. Think Secretary of Labor or HHS in a Biden Cabinet.

He isn't.

We need those types in office because sometimes you need a guy willing to call a spade a spade and stand up for what's right.

The presidency requires a more gentle-handed and even approach to getting stuff done. I hesitate to say Bernie would go rolling over things the way Trump does, but his approach of being an immoveable rock is not the best approach to getting things done, all things considered.

My position on Biden being racist is that a sincere racist wouldn't willingly spend eight years serving as a subordinate to black guy nearly twenty years younger than him.

For everything else, I'm choosing to only judge Biden on his words and actions post-2008, since Obama vetted him on everything before then and considered him worthy. Twice.*


*IIRC, the last time I said this Amaris posted a picture of Obama and Harvey Weinstein together without comment.