Unconstitutional? So what, we're doing it anyways.

Zombie · Nov 26, 2008

Man Afraid of his Shoes said: ↑

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Pennsylvania passed a law in 1974 that says only the state, not towns, can regulate guns.

That's why this is unconstitutional in the state.

Also, the fact that this thread has devolved into a Jenee thread sucks. I can't stand the level of sheer stupidity that woman spews.
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I think the PA constitution states "sale, transportation, transfer" of guns. Unless you consider "theft or loss" as transfer then it's perfectly constitutional within the State of PA. I'm sure it'll be challenged in court, I'm not so sure it will be struck down.

The question about whether it's a silly law is moot. Filing off the serial # and acquiring the gun casually render the law useless.

The question is really: why wouldn't gun owners want to report their lost or stolen firearms? Doesn't this protect them in the event it's used in the commission of a crime? Wouldn't this information benefit the investigation of crime at least in reducing legwork? "The gun was reported stolen," end of story.

Where it may be effective is limiting the business of purchasing guns to resell to criminals. If the "legitimate" buyer doesn't report the gun stolen, he's liable for fines (I suppose in the event it's recovered after a crime). If he reports it as stolen when really it's been sold to someone unable to purchase it themselves, it'll be pretty obvious after the 3rd or 4th gun reported in a month. Either way it puts a damper on this path for guns to hit the street.

What's wrong with this?
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First of all, the only people suggesting that gun owners would be against reporting stolen or lost guns are the pro-gun controlers here. Gun owners in this thread have said, more than once I believe, that people SHOULD report their guns lost or stolen...but that they shouldn't be FORCED to by law.

As for the "why not" part, Elwood has already pointed it out. To a lot of gun owners, any new gun law that doesn't pertain to criminals exclusively is a "slippery slope" situation. As Elwood said...we've been giving an inch and they've been taking a mile ever since the 1930's. It's why the words "reasonable gun control" makes us want to choke somebody. Gun control advocates wonder why we're so stubborn. "Why wouldn't you want to do this?" "Why won't you compromise?"

The reason we don't compromise is because in order to compromise, there generally has to be a level playing field. Gun control people seem to believe that every time gun owners compromise, and new restrictions are enacted, that there is a brand new status quo, and start asking for more "compromise". Eventually, the other side is going to see where all this compromising is leading, and then dig in their heals. Not necessarily because they believe a new law is a bad idea in and of its self, but because they've seen the pattern that could ultimately lead to compromising away "all" their rights.

Anyway, that's why we come across as being stubborn about even the most "common of sense" gun laws.
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You can't compromise with leftists. EVER.

They just keep compromising until they've got everything they want and you have nothing.

shootER · Nov 26, 2008

Zombie said: ↑

apostle83 said: ↑

Pennsylvania passed a law in 1974 that says only the state, not towns, can regulate guns.

That's why this is unconstitutional in the state.

Also, the fact that this thread has devolved into a Jenee thread sucks. I can't stand the level of sheer stupidity that woman spews.
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It's not unconstitutional.

It's illegal since it violates state law.

To be unconsititutional they would have to pass a law that violates their own state constitution. In this case they onlyu passed a local law that violates state law.

Your argument will get much further if you'd [-]drop the whole Constitutional bit[/-] stop posting and let the adults discuss this.
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