Universal Basic Income

Keep that away thanks, your experiences hold no more weight than the imagined speculation of a grumpy internet libertarian.

Because it would cost more, you wouldn't be as able to vet your candidates, and 1:1 oversight would be impossible.

By all means, piss away your own money at your leisure.

35 million on literal UBI?

Ohhh, so it will work if you change my country into something completely different. And I 'm the disingenuous one.

Fuck off. Fuck completely the hell off with your stupid ass.

So you admit taxpayer costs would actually go up in the short term, and you expect them to just take one for the team in the hope that future generations might benefit.

It may not be true in 100% of cases, but that doesn't mean you get to ignore the bad examples.

You appear to have no problem doing so when it comes to gun control.

Bullshit. I focus on the guilty parties and impose absolute personal accountability there as I do here.

What I'm doing is refusing to treat individuals as a collective, here as well as there.

Don’t you think it would be worth it if we could just get rid of social security and give people a certain amount of money and if the squander it then, oh well, you’re on your own?

You want to justify throwing out the whole thing here because of "bad examples". But you go into hysterics when the same is suggested for gun fetishists.

bullshit
because a few people may not be productive with a G(or U or T)BI, your claim is that the entire notion is a bad one.
meanwhile we've shown you multiple examples of multiple scales proving to be an overall success.

How is that not denying the many for the failings of the few?

In each case I only look at the individual. Who is held accountable for his actions? Who is being made to suffer for someone else's actions? And of course, who is paying the bills?

I'm not denying anyone anything that legitimately belonged to them in the first place.

i thought you believed in unrestricted darwinistic capitalism based on principles caveat emptor?
that people should be grateful for their jobs and ever diminishing ability to sustain themselves as inflation pushes what the market can handle?

oops, too late to edit.

that should read "principles of caveat emptor"


I know.. everyone's brains filled that in for them the first time. But for those who's brains also flagged it... :gfy:

closer to a G(uaranteed)BI, but
CERB

anyone who's income was sufficient enough to disqualify them eligibility knew that was likely from the time they applied for it they'd have to repay it. No idea what the expected schedule for that is, but it'll just show up as income tax. This is where the perception of GBI as negative taxation comes in.

That's a funny way of saying "Adults are responsible for their own existence," but yes.

UBI is contrary to that. What is mine does not belong to you, no matter how badly you insist you need it.

If that were the case you would not be where you are now. That is a belief system that you do not live by and you are deluded and insane to think that. That is so wrong and it shows why you are just barely functioning in society.

not sure how this has anything to do with being a responsible adult? Like, are you really going with "all poverty is a moral failing"?

you also keep insisting that this would somehow affect you. why? If anything, you'd likely benefit from it.

"All" is for idiot collectivists.

Some will be in that place due to consistently bad decisions.

Fun fact: Non-conformist iconoclasts don't parrot RNC talking points.

Surrender accepted.

You would have to attempt making a point for anyone to dodge it.

because otherwise the world is a completely equal and objective place where everybody starts from a position of total autonomy?

na, the surrender is once again you kicking over the board and turning a thread into an insult fest.
you've long lost the actual argument.

1) There is no reality where you are only accountable for your conduct when the world lives up to your personal standard of "fairness." That covers the circumstances of your birth as well as everyone else's.

2) Total equality is impossible without abandoning the concepts of merit and private property while indenturing one man to the welfare of his neighbor.

Yes, that does answer your question. Take a second look if your swiss cheesed grey matter needs more time to process before you say something stupid.

Please.

You should really get back to pulling Tererun's pud over your mutual affinity for playing dress up and pretending it counts as a personality.

I seem to have frequent cause to ask this... the fuck are you on about now?

(although this does somewhat confirm the point)