Universal Basic Income

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  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Tax incentives.
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  2. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.” Joe Biden.
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Let's impeach him!!
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  4. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    which'd bring us back to education, because the math of tax deduction:costs doesn't end in profitable.

    /smiles smugly in vasectomy

    although there's also the discussion to be had over boredom... people with nothing better to do fuck.
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  5. tafkats

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    Bullshit.

    The cost of supporting a child dwarfs the tax credits available to parents.
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  6. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    oh no! PotUS acknowledges socio-economic norms of white privilege!

    Outrage at 11!
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  7. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    conservative values that impede access/use of birth control?

    netflix and chill being one of the few affordable diversions?

    kinda curious about this, though...


    seems to omit the far more frequent "5 or 6 kids with as many mommies" (how many they're covering child support for might vary).
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    Used pussies are dirty, and therefore evil, and therefore dangerous and scary. :borg:
    Nevermind that Christian brains came up with that shit.
    It's politically useful, so let's pass it along.
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    Basic human biological drives combined with lack of access to education.

    And I don’t just mean public education as it currently exists in the US, I mean education in biology and medicine.
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    Just washing the dishes and zoning out and I realized I'm on board with this idea. Because not only would I get the Universal Basic Income, so would all my renters, so I could raise my rents and get their money too. :cool:
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  12. Spaceturkey

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    problem for ya there is that you'd be taxed on both your rental incomes AND your UBI, likely to the point of negating the latter.

    at least that's what's happened here with anyone who claimed it during covid who also was above whatever the income threshold was.

    But hey, you keep on doing what you do to help drive Americans into serfdom...
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  13. Steal Your Face

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    I was going to say, wouldn't it be means tested.
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    A true UBI isn't means tested, which is why there's an inflationary concern.
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    There's a thought: Volpone torn between lying about how much he makes or how little he makes. :lol:
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  16. Spaceturkey

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    yup, thus discouraging parasitism like Volpy suggests (while also demonstrating the necessity of rent control and regulation in rental housing)
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    If there is means testing, then it isn’t universal. It’s just a basic income and not only would Volpy not be included, he would not be able to raise rent on his renters.

    As usual, he has no idea of basic economics.
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  18. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    so anyways, about how UBI allows folks a chance to reach further and higher...

    A few years back, it allowed me to take a part time gig doing something I found meaningful by making up the gap.

    That got me enough experience to take a lower level FT job where I've been for the past 9 months, broadening my capabilities and getting a few new certifications

    Two weeks ago an internal posting (yay, union) came up in the dept I've spent the most time in.

    Interviewed on Friday, got the call this morning.

    huge pay jump, more duties to get into the swing of over the next few weeks.

    But as of this Friday, I move to the desk beside the window, and it's MINE!!!
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    Nice! May all your squirrels be merry.
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    Excellent! Break a leg!
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    Congrats dude!
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    Just don't eat that leg :ramen:
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    Now we’re doing cannibalism jokes?
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  24. Nyx

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    Congratulations!

    UBI should be common practice, and it should be instituted with basic protections. For example, say people are issued $1,000 a month UBI. Corporations could not raise prices just because of that new revenue. That also includes rent. I believe we need rent control in this country desperately, and we needed it years ago. What good is so-called "freedom" if all you have is the freedom to die sick, hungry, and homeless in an alley? Even the most basic of protections like in more civilized countries that aren't the US, they have programs that at least guarantee you won't die in a ditch because you lost your job.

    Come on, surely the United States, one of the biggest economies in the world, can afford a paltry token toward many of the people who make it so damn big.
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    http://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/what-the-actual-fuck.115844/
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  26. Spaceturkey

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    where I work we offer Rent Geared to Income housing.

    I think it works out to about 15% of whatever gov't support most of the residents live off of.

    They're a gamut from addicts to elders to just got stuck in the system and need a few years worth of support to get out.

    It ain't UBI, but the result is the same. People can afford housing and still have a disposable income to do whatever with. The ones with extra needs well, that's what we're there to take care of.
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  27. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    since, always...


    but as I recall, you and zippy are into schlocky movies and this post reminded me of an old favorite.

    a bunch of SCTV performers in secondary parts...

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  28. Nyx

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    Indeed. If we're going to have to live in this system (for now), then people need a place to live that doesn't drain their income. Where I live, whether you make $7.50 an hour or $25 an hour, rent is still obscene. A "2 bedroom, 1 bath" (the house is 700 sq. ft) went up for rent this past week, in an ordinary neighborhood, and the asking rent is $2200 a month. We live out in bumfuck nowhere! There's no reason for those prices in a town where most people make just above minimum wage, and the largest employer is the Kroger down the road. If you do find something under $1,000 a month, it's in a neighborhood where gunshots and/or gunfights are frequent, cops are rampant, and the guy with the monster truck decided he wanted to fire it up at 2 AM to see why there's valve rattle. This is where we live, and our landlord is constantly telling us how he could charge us more but "he likes us as tenants."

    This is also the same guy who saw a giant hole in the ceiling (from where a roofer accidentally fell), and said "it's not that bad, is it?"

    No one should have to live like that. I'd say 15% of income would be more than reasonable, because we don't even have proper healthcare in this country. We'll need that extra money for luxuries like running water, electricity, medicine, and food. All of which are heavily privatized.
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  29. Spaceturkey

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    yeah
    I thank my lucky stars that I live in a rent controlled non profit. It'd cost double now.
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