You fucking liberals all miss the fucking point. You've had it so soft that it has made your brains soft as well. It isn't a crime to peaceably assemble in a church basement. Or the back room of a pub. Or in the living room of your house--you know, areas where someone has given you permission to be. For that matter, you can peaceably assemble in a national forest or something. You just can't so something on public property that deprives the 99% (heh) of use of that property. I can't go eat my lunch in the park around the corner from work (or at least enjoy it) if the park has been co-opted into a camp for dirty hippie criminals. Coming back to the initial point, the right of assembly means the State can't come into the church basement and cart away people to detention centers for having unpopular ideas. Hell, even the Westboro Baptist cocksuckers understand how these things work in a way that they don't run afoul of the law. Why do liberals have such a hard time understanding that you can't take a shit on the sidewalk out in front of the town hall because the rest of us don't want to step in it?
I'm going to trust Steven Pinker on the importance of freedom of assembly versus you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3-son3EJTrU#t=487s
So you've got no support of your own for this "point," then? First thirty seconds of that are about visibility drawing attention to civil unrest. So, are you unable to draw attention to yourself without blocking traffic? No, you fucking aren't. Clearing you from the streets does not violate your right to assemble and speak, period.
I just love how the leftists on this board keep hinting at revolution. Guys no matter what you say the revolution is not going to be a leftist revolution that ushers in a era of socialism/communism/dictatorship you all want. The revolution is going to crush leftism in America. Leftists are the targets not the shooters. The day of the "Progressive" is coming to an end. Americans don't want to pay for it anymore.
You can get a permit to protest in the street. Happens all the time. City has enough time to block off traffic and redirect things. You just can't show up however on a street unannounced and expect people around you to be on your side. Nor can you expect the police to leave you alone.
Well how about this, let's make an amendment that says peaceful assembly is limited to ways that aren't inconvenient to people, and if enough individuals sign it, people in this thread might have a point.
Yeah, it's gonna be militia assholes and skinheads ushering in their flavor of dictatorship. And all you recliner jockeys are just gonna watch, and eat Doritos. Never said otherwise. Fire up the ovens.
They can interrupt their self-righteous tantrum long enough to leave a path for traffic. If their goal truly is helping the common working-class folks (and not pretending some unsanitary hippie drum jam fest was an badass act of rebellion worth bragging about with their friends), then surely they wouldn't want to interfere with someone trying to get to work. And there is a way of dealing with space concerns like that. But getting a fucking permit is also somehow an infringement.
Sure, and while we're at it let's pass around something that let's people indicate whether they support the idea of declaring the act of posing a threat to public safety, creating unsanitary conditions, and preventing people from getting to work to put food on the table for their families, as merely "inconvenient." 'Cuz I think it's just fucking adorable, myself.
Once again, please show me in the constitution where it says I need a permit to protest. Please find documentation that supports that the intent of the framers was such that liberty and freedom take a back seat to permits and bureaucracies.
Sure.... As soon as..... #1 You show me where in the Constitution I need a license to conceal a weapon or buy one for that matter. Show me where in the Constitution I need government "approval" (background checks) to buy one. #2 You show me where in the Constitution the government has the right to take my property not for government use but to give my property to someone else in order to take in more tax money. Please find documentation that supports that the intent of the framers was such that liberty and freedom take a back seat to permits and bureaucracies.
Last week, when police moved in to clear the Occupy Toronto people out, at least one television crew reported that the protesters cut the cables running from their cameras back to the microwave truck. Not once, but two or even three times in some cases.
I think defender is absolutely right. To prove his point he should enter the nearest crowded theatre and yell "fire" and when they come to arrest him explain that his first amendment right to free speech cannot be abridged. Otherwise his so-called point relies on logical fallacy #17 (also the more familiar: 'put up or shut up').
Lil' Dicky is just sore that this Occupy movement is getting so much press. He's been doing an Occupy for over 30 years and has anyone said anything!? No.