Well, Finally Went Deer Hunting

Discussion in 'Camp Wordforge' started by Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    Mods, please move this thread to the red room.
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  2. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    God loves, Man kills - deer.
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    You can't eat a photograph. Geez.
  5. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    Then buy some venison from a shop. You havnt ever shot a cow or a sheep or a pig have you?
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    You think your hands are clean because somebody else did the killing for you?

    I don't hunt, but I don't think it's wrong either. In a lot of ways it's better than industrialized meat production.
  7. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Actually, I have.

    Why would anyone who isn't a weak excuse of a human being NOT be willing to take such matters into their own hands on occasion? Does it stem some self-delusion of yours that you're "civilized"?
  8. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    I'd be completely happy to kill an animal if i ever had to, ive nothing against that at all. Its just that ive never had to
  9. Aenea

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    The thrill of sport hunting is not only in the stalking of the prey, which as Spider suggested can be accomplished with a camera, but there is also your skill as a sharp shooter.

    When you are shooting a gun it is thrilling to hit just where you wanted to. So in Sport hunting there is both the thrill of the hunt and the thrill of seeing how much your shooting ability has improved.

    That being said he is not sport shooting and anyone who is should die in a fire. If you are going to shoot it you should at least eat it, and by my estimates you should be gutting and processing it yourself. But it should not be left in the woods to rot. If you kill it, you should honor it by eating it. :D
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  10. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    Sure you do - you kill them every day by eating them. You create a demand, and someone kills it.

    The difference between this meat and the meat I normally eat is that on this, it grew up free range, and died instantly and without pain or fear.

    Those advocating industrial killing and trying to imply some sort of moral superiority... you lose.
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  11. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    Therefore someone who wants that thrill could hunt with a camera, then go to a shooting range...
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  12. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    What's up with all of this ridiculous conjecture about simulating a hunt?
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    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    Uhh what are you talking about?
    The only reason i have to be in favour of 'industrial killing' i.e. farming, is becasue that is quite simply the only way this planet can feed itself. It wouldnt actualy work if we went back to being hunter-gatherers you know,... the population is too large
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    Why's it such a bad idea, lots of people do it :shrug:
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    You don't take a camera with you and snap pictures of deer for the same reason everybody doesn't fuck dolls (except for volpone): it isn't real.
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    On my end of Tennessee, the deer shoot back.

    Makes it more sportin'!
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    Anyone here remember this movie about this australian guy that was fighting these kangaroo killers. The Guy dressed himself up as a kangaroo and was hiding with a shotgun. When the kangaroo killers came and started shooting, one of them yelled "Hey, that kangaroo's got a gun" then start running when he started shooting back at them :lol:


    I cant remember the name of the movie,( I think it was named Crocodile Dundee), but the guy that starred in it was the same guy that used to do the "Subaru Outback" car commercials :)
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Oh really? ;)

    apostle83: Stallion isn't questioning you hunting the deer for food/population control as I see it, he is trying to understand the thrill of killing something. It seems a lot of hunters get pleasure from talking about the moment of killing something which is what can seem disturbing. (witness an otherwise ordinary member on this board who every so often will gleefully tell the story of the time he blew an animals rear legs off with a shotgun).

    I agree with what Aenea said mostly. I have no issues whatsoever with people hunting for their food if they are doing it like this. I wouldn't do it but I can understand and respect it a hell of a lot more than someone who will happily go buy a burger from McDonalds but then get all high and mighty about hunters.

    Those people who just go out and kill things for the fun of it though without having a reason for it? The sadistic fucks can go die in a fire for all I care.
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  19. Dan Leach

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    I agree with someone who knows more than i do, and has done a LOT of hunting. Ray Mears, who has got more and more famous in the uk over the past few years, has travelled the world learning about survival and hunting techniques and teaches and has always been completely against hunting for 'sport'
    http://www.raymears.com/
    If im gonna choose someones opinion to agree with,... i think i'll go with that one :)
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    But...why does someone get a thrill from hitting a hole in one or a three point shot, or a ....... well anything that you get excited about.

    This isn't a sadistic thrill this is doing what man has done for thousands of years. It's what for many of those years was the way a man got a mate and survived and was made head of the tribe and so on. It is breed into the DNA. Some still feel that thrill and some don't. I guess you could say we have not evolved as far as you yet. :lol: I'm fine with that, I like to get excited over stupid stuff sometimes.

    But this thrill is just as hard to explain as that of any other thrill that I said earlier. It's hard for others to understand that haven't had to depend on hunting for at least part of there food or who just haven't done it period.

    Part of it is just pitting yourself against nature and seeing who can win. Can you as the hunter outsmart thousands of years of survival instincts. Thousand's of years of breed instinct beyond humans being here and playing the game. (Does that make any sense? :unsure:)
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  21. Aenea

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    NOBODY here hunts for sport. Everyone here who ever talks about hunting always talks about hunting and eating what they are killing.

    (Or for thinning the population)

    edit: Stallion wanted to know about the thrill not sport hunting at least when I went back to his first questions that is what I saw. :shrug:
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  22. Ramen

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    Nope, buy your food in cellophane, work in your office pod, watch television, pay your bills, pay your taxes, die.

    Behold: Civilization!
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  23. Aenea

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    :PGT:

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    That explains why there is a thrill, but saying we evolved to like doing things is a bad justification given the unsavory things that are common among some of our closest primate relatives and likely shaped our own evolution but are frowned upon by our society.

    That said, I'm not sure why Dan is arguing with you since you already said that hunting purely for sport is wrong?
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    I was saying that to my wife just the other day. [​IMG]
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    I'm not trying to say we evolved to like something. But for a lot of people if you get a thrill you like it and want to do it again. :shrug:
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  27. Dan Leach

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    Yeah you get thrills from all kinds of things, which thrills you choose are dependant on the society in which you grow up.
    Im glad mine has mostly stopped hunting wild animals for sport. ... I can get the same thrill through other means ...
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    You realize Dan that hunting for sport is not what the the people on this board do right.

    Sport hunting is generally people who go out shoot something and leave it.

    Hunting is going out killing something, gutting it, cleaning it, butchering it, and then eating it.

    And you also realize that the killing of animals for your market is a lot less humane than this? Take cattle for instance they put them in a large pen with other cattle where they can't walk to much or run a lot (so the meat doesn't get tough) Then they kill them and butcher them.

    At least when you take a deer out you can do it (if you are good) with one shot that kills quickly, but the deer has been running free and not restricted before it hits your table plus it hasn't been subjected to various antibiotics and who knows what else that has been feed or injected into a cow to keep it healthy, while it has been cooped up it a small space with other cattle. Feed lots can quickly become disease ridden if the cattle are not properly "looked" after.
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    Humane = never see the process.
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    I see. ;)
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