Wherein Chup proves what a racist he is

Since he decided to start something in Media Central, I decided to move it to a more appropriate venue.

Ah, I see, you're that kind of racist asshole then. Not a single drop, right?

He is certainly obsessed about race injecting it into topics not even related to race.

Am I missing something? Is there more context here?

Are you or are you not Indian? I'm very confused.

I go between thinking he's either 100% Indian or 1/68th Aztec. Either way, I'm guessing he's lived a highly sheltered life where his background has never caused him the slightest issue.

No, he's "native american", "first peoples" or "first nations". Presumably, if you're tight enough, whatever nation he's related to is also respectful. I.e.; " 'Nish" is a common diminutive (but not a diminishment) of "Anishinaabe", derived from the common languages of local tribes (Six Nations) for the word they use to describe themselves.

It isn't some PC/SJW crap either. "Indians" are from India, a third of a world away (and genetically distinct ancestral pool)... the difference is accuracy as well as respect.

Although, I thought Captain Apple was a non status Metis?

Indians are natives of the New World. The people in India (who are Indian as a nationality, not an ethnicity) are a mix of Persians, Dravidians, Marathis, Nepalese, Punjabis, and all sorts of other groups.

And you wouldn't get to India by sailing west from Europe even if the New World was missing. You'd instead hit Russia, Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia, New Guinea, Australia, or Vietnam. If you hit India you've spent 3,000 miles dodging everything else that was in the way.

Actually, I saw a post in that thread (the one to which Chup was responding directly to) that I'd like to address:

Doesn't this not highlight exactly why representation matters? For blacks, his came a lot more quickly because we were very, very, very vocal against this stereotyping and we had more power in Hollywood to begin to affect our depictions away from just being maids or being Steppen Fetchit. I'd say Cosby was the first big pioneer in moving away from the poor-and-broke, hard luck TV shows that plagued the 70s, and that deserves acknowledgement in spite of the taint that will forever be attached with his name.

I think the passive acceptance is why Hollywood continues to get away with yellowface as well.

I always said that I wanted to get into politics for one major reason.

So someone could ask me.

"Mr. Kitchens, what's your views on casinos on Indian land?"

And then I could say.

"I have serious reservations.........."

Does it matter if he looks white?

That was a good one.

Captain Apple would like you to know that you're now officially a racist, because according to the Captain, only racists ever think about or acknowledge the existence of race or ethnicity.

I thought you were Lakota Sioux?

Apparently he was In the Navy, and enjoyed visiting the YMCA in his younger days, and certainly likes to be a Macho Man. Curiously you'd think his tastes would Go West, but instead drift to the east...

Wait. CaptainX is Indian?


Headpiece or third eye?

I'm guessing Cleveland. His river of bullshit is as flammable as the Cuyahoga.

LOL, I miss the days when libshits believed that in earnest: Race doesn't exist, it's a social construct.

Nowadays they sound more like the Klan: Race exists and Whites posses an inherent privilege over other races.

I must've missed that memo?

I prefer Oldfellas: "Dot or casino?"

FWIW I was unaware that "Indian" was offensive. If it is then I apologise. I am not racist like @Dinner. The UK does not have a native American population, nor have I ever acted for one. Honest mistake based on not having had a lot of contact with the people. So @Captain X can shove his faux outrage where the sun don't shine.

TBH I wasn't asking anything about the "one drop rule". I was just curious as to his background as I didn't know.

Yes, the UK does have a Native American population. A lot of Lakota are buried in Brompton and Blackfeet in Manchester. Hayley Atwell, who plays Marvel's Agent Carter, is Native American. They are probably everywhere by now. But note that Prince George and Princess Charlotte's mitochondrial DNA is dot Indian, not Native American.

If everyone who claimed Native American heritage in the US actually had a drop of Native American blood in their heritage, we'd be 98% Native American as a country. Additionally, there are some people who actually do have a drop of Native American blood from their great great great grandma or some such, who claim all the bragging rights of being 100% Native American.

I may be wrong, but I suspect @Captain X inferred from your comment that you thought he was the latter.

Actually, I don't think that was the point of this thread, but rather the idea that both parents must be a certain race for somebody to identify as such.

What I don't understand is how a bunch of immigrants from Asia came to be called Native Americans. At some point during the migrations this was probably a point of contention. "WE are the native people. YOU are an Asian fresh off the kayak! Ooo... Is that a new kind of spear point? Those damn Asians are always coming up with new shit."

Who was promoting that idea? I wasn't. I just asked a question. Anything beyond that is people drawing an inference of something that simply wasn't intended to be there, hence my post at #22.

If people want to cry that I am somehow a conscious racist, well knock yourselves out, but you know it's bollocks given what I've done for work for nearly two decades and what you know of my personal life...and if I had intended to be racist I would not have immediately apologised.

Or are you claiming otherwise?

That was not the intention. I didn't know what he was. That's why I asked.

No, I make no claim about you at all, just trying to explain the statement by CaptainjX.

You thought the people who make the best food your country has to offer, a people's whose subcontinent you concurred and ruled for years, are the same people that are indigenous to my vastly superior country? Is that what you thought?

Did history books in the U.K. remove the fact that my country was discovered by a lost Euro who thought he landed in India or something?