Wherein Chup proves what a racist he is

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  1. Soma

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    So you're subscribing to Packard's idea of there being no biological basis for race, huh?
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    ohdeve the obvious dual FUCK YO GRAPES!

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    Hey! You're stupid.
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  3. Soma

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    Thanks. :)
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    ohdeve the obvious dual FUCK YO GRAPES!

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    That's very well said. But some people can't grasp the nuances of your statement because they do not believe in sociology. The idea that individual choices do not drive social forces is anathema to them.
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  5. Quincunx

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    I don’t believe the idea originated with @Packard. And it’s not exactly true to say there is “no biological basis” for race. Obviously skin color, hair texture, etc. are biological traits. Just that using such traits as a basis for classification, and then using that classification as justification for social inequality, is not adequately explained by biology alone.
  6. Soma

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    Social inequality is created by biological differences. It is more than adequate to explain the inequality.
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  7. Quincunx

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    Preface that sentence with “The belief that…” and I think we may have arrived at a working definition of racism. :techman:
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  8. Soma

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    Fish can't process air. Doesn't mean I hate them. :shrug:
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    Who said anything about hate?
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    :shrug:
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    He found himself a private forum to spam up after he had his last hissy fit. People kept making fun of him for repeatedly threatening to leave but never actually staying away so now, I guess, he is too embarassed to come back. He kind of has to or he proves everyone else right. ;)
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    El Chump - is he still boycotting WF because Dinner hasn't been banned? :dayton:
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    Their dogma changes daily and the one constant is it gets more convoluted bull shit like with each iteration.
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  14. Soma

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    People like Quest and Packard live in a state of delusion. They can't come to terms with the fact that the idyllic world they hope for can never come to pass. There's no human system holding blacks down. There's no human barrier keeping women out of STEM. Nature has made us all different for better or worse. But rather than try to acknowledge our differences and find ways to help everyone live fulfilling, meaningful lives, they'd rather waste their time trying to convince others to join them in their delusion. :(
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    Honestly, I think he was through with WF after he got trolled for his failed engagement but he was just too stubborn to give in back then. :shrug:
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    Well just change Dinner's name and then tell El Chup that we finally nailed the bastard.

    When he comes back just tell him that Lunch is a new retard.
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    He and Dindin are FB friends, so Imma just gonna go with whatever other bug up the ass that he has. It's the best way, for your own sanity. :(
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    Oh. I thought he left because of Dinner.

    What a rat bastard.
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  19. 14thDoctor

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    It's what he claimed, but he still had no problem posting alongside Dinner at TK either.

    He's just a drama queen.
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  20. Zombie

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    And at TK?

    A double rat bastard!
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  21. Dinner

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    If that was the reason then it was a years long delay. The guy left forever a half dozen times before it finally took.
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    That was hilarious as fuck. "I can't post on a board with him because I supposedly might get fired but I will chase him from board to board." I believe Faceman taunted him to no end about that one and he finally just got trolled so hard he ran away to a private forum.
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    Also ironic that he claimed he was his own boss...but could get fired because of associating with Dinner on WF.
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    The guy was just a drama queen filled with all kinds of fail.
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    Seems to fit the description rather well, so, yes, it's prejudice.

    And why wouldn't they take it personally when someone makes prejudiced statements based on their race - an aspect of themselves they have no control over.

    That is exactly how it's being used, and its based on lies and half-truths.

    Tell that to the people who are being shouted down, or attacked, or segregated based on their race and/or sex. :bailey:
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    Oh dear. The notion of white privilige can’t be used to form judgements about individuals based on race. Nor is it a justification for rude behavior. Anybody engaging in such actions betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept.
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    The notion of "white privilege" is a judgement of individuals based on race. That is something you can't get around, not the least of which because it's in the name. And it is used to justify "rude" behavior because identity politics is based on Marxist principles that say the oppressed should hate the oppressor, and white people are the oppressors in their view.
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    Identity politics doesn’t originate in Marxism. Politics based on white identity and the protection of white privilege have a history stretching back to the earliest days of the American republic. Some of the perceived threats to whiteness even came from groups that would be considered white today, like the Irish. The adoption of racial identity politics by far left groups actually represents a departure from traditional Marxism, which tended to deemphasize racial and ethnic divisions in favor of class solidarity.
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    Even if it didn't, it is a major part of it now.

    So what you're saying then is that you recognize identity politics are inherently bigoted, cool. :techman:

    Not so much a departure as a repackaging. It is still the same old crap about oppressors/oppressed, only class has been replaced with race and sex. Ironically this actually makes them closer to their boogeymen, the white nationalists, who practically cream their shorts at the thought of race war.
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