Wokeness ate my baby tangent from political meme thread

Is this a parody post? Holy shit, you need a therapist.

Judi Dench as M has bigger balls than you. Holy fucking shit, you are mentally broken.

I now have no doubt in my mind that we'll one day see @Bill Carson's name in the news as a mass shooter.

Good news is I think he had to pawn his AR so he could afford some non-woke beer. It isn't like he is going to give up drunk driving just because a drag queen turned his beer gay.

Liar.

I've only skimmed this nonsense but this was the most ridiculous example. I mean, the guy was so damn popular, he got his own spinoff show FFS.

You cannot be serious with this.

Please go touch grass.

Hi liar.

Different people have different definitions of what a Mary Sue is. According to the definition you're using, it is inherently female. Which is the only thing that potentially makes Luke not a Mary Sue if one thinks Rey is.

Nothing about flying the Falcon is inherently difficult or unrealistic for either Rey or Finn. For Rey, we know that she has been spending her life salvaging ships. It's a fair inference from that that she might have some basic knowledge about how one works.

Once you accept the concept of the Force, and that it's at least partially based in bloodlines, you have to accept the conclusion that really nothing about Rey's use of it can be considered unrealistic. It allows Luke to defy the laws of physics and guide his bomb to blow up the Death Star. It makes him able to outfly many of his colleagues his first time in an X-Wing. What feet does Rey accomplish that is more unrealistic than that? If the best that you can do is "she performed a Jedi mind trick without having been specifically trained how to do so" well, you are out of luck. The films specifically say that she had heard stories of the OT heroes. So it's certainly plausible that she had heard stories of Obi-Wan or Luke performing Jedi mind tricks as part of that.

As for Rey beating up men twice her size, haven't you heard? Size matters not.

Given that Rey turns out to be the descendant of perhaps the strongest Force user ever, and given that the Force at least partially travels through bloodlines, and given that the Force is shown to help in all sorts of ways, there can almost never be anything unrealistic about what Rey can do.

The flaws Rey has and the hero's journey she takes are different from, say, Luke or Anakin, but they are still there. She lets her issues about having been abandoned by her parents and her heritage predominate her.

You might want to wait until the movie comes out to see how Dial of Destiny actually plays out. I've got one million quatloos that say that even if the ending is even in the same ballpark as your rumors say it is that is not "emasculating" but a happy ending for senior citizen Indy and that it doesn't undo the two hours of heroics that precede it.

Again, you may want to wait until the entirety of the series is over before jumping to the conclusion that it is depicting Fury as "a useless old man." The way it has been set up, Fury endured trauma from being returned AND he's been off-world and out of touch for years AND he is facing a greater threat than probably any that he has personally faced: an unknown number of aliens who have the ability to shapeshift and who have access to greater-than-normal technology and who have been coordinating with each other for years. Oh, and he is going to be largely cut off from the networks that he had built because of the nature of the Skrulls because he can't trust anyone out of a handful of people, and he may not be able to trust them. Keep in mind that the Nick Fury who brought the Avengers together did so nearly 20 years ago in MCU time, and was at the time the head of a massive spy organization with massive power. Also keep in mind that that Nick Fury, at the top of his game, had no idea that half the humans supposedly working for him were actually loyal to Hydra.

Under these circumstances, it is only natural for people to question whether Fury can handle what he's facing with the Skrulls. And yes, some of those who question it were women. That does not make him emasculated. But again, a million quatloos says that by the end of the series Fury will have managed to foil the titular Secret Invasion.

I should also point out that even from the jump, regardless of the doubts expressed about him, Fury has so far been doing all right for a guy who is probably 70-80. Yes, he has certainly had and will continue to have setbacks. But saying that they emasculate him is as ridiculous as someone saying that the fact that he is experiencing setbacks is because Disney is racist.

And the debate of whether you are a Kool-Aid drinking idiot or a troll continues with the notion that Disney "can no longer show a man in a positive light." Just sticking to the Marvel franchise for the last five years, we have had stories featuring mainly male heroes ranging from Sam Wilson, Bucky Barnes, Peter Parker, Dr. Strange, Scott Lang, Hank Pym, Rocket, Peter Quill, Shang-Chi. This is not to mention the various men who are sidekicks and are presented in a positive light. If you honestly think that those and other characters were not painted in a positive light, I don't know what to say.

A real man can withstand a challenge to his authority without considering it "emasculating." Anyone who saw Anson Mount's Pike at any time and thought he was being emasculated has no idea what that term means.

So of the, what, 9 Bond movies including Goldeneye where he fights and fucks and generally does what he wants, the "emasculating" part is that he's told that he's a relic and a womanizer that one time and that when he has retired for the third time someone tells him he is too old for the job? The part that he is in fact a womanizer does not matter? Or that he succeeds wildly in each of those movies in his objectives doesn't matter? The fact that a black woman (out of curiosity, why does her race matter here?) took over his old 00-number is that big a deal? If beating a bajillion bad guys and sacrificing yourself to save the world can be considered "emasculated," then any person alive should be happy to be considered so, including literally your Lord and Savior. Jesus Christ.

Maibee the dengo ait yo baibee.

Most stories with a straightforward heroic protagonist have a first or second act where things look bleak for the hero. Maybe they get their ass kicked, maybe people say bad things about them, but whatever it is, that part of the story exists to make their inevitable victory all the sweeter.

Some woman talked shit about James Bond? Yeah, now she's having sex with him after he saved the world.

Some villain just beat the shit out of Batman? Guess what, Batman's gonna beat the shit out of them within the next hour.

Some legacy character just got called old and useless? Everyone will be praising the hell out of them by the end of the story. They might even get a medal or a new job.


To look at these storytelling tropes that have been around basically forever and call them "wokeness" and "emasculation" is a sign of some deep seated insecurity, and possibly mental issues. Seriously dude, see help. Get some counselling, and not from "Alpha male" or "culture warrior" YouTubers.

Are you people denying the concerted effort to portray men as mainly some combination of weak, incompetent and evil? Come the fuck off it. The shit is everywhere.

Didn’t hear you complain when women were portrayed as weak, incompetent, and evil.

Yes, but that is because you are making the effort to show us how weak and incompetent you are.

Do you want us to pretend you are a big strong man or not? Make up your mind. At least trans people know who the fuck they want to be. Every time you try to nail down UA on something, not the cross he lives on, he denies he was ever like that.

Christ you're a fragile snowflake.

Edit: but yes, I absolutely reject your interpretation and if that's how you are mainly seeing men portrayed the problem is either you or the things you are selectively watching.

Jesus fuck, the only guys in this thread who seem to have lost their balls are UA and FF.

Yes, I am denying it.

Where is your proof that there is a concerted effort to make men look "mainly some combination of weak, incompetent and evil?" Take into consideration that there have always been male and female characters both that have been weak, incompetent and evil. What proof are you citing to support that men are mainly being portrayed negatively?

How can it possibly stand up against the billion dollar superhero film industry, in which the protagonists are mainly male and who are portrayed positively, the various cop/FBI/legal shows that tend to be predominated by men who are portrayed heroically, the various sci-fi and fantasy series, almost all of which have male protagonists portrayed heroically, etc. etc.

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I knew that would be among the responses. Not a denial, but "It's about time men learned what it felt like."

Get control of your woman. Spank her ass with a wooden spoon until it makes the Rudolph nose noise.
Do it, or the bad kids table with laugh and point at you.

Of course, what's actually happening is that women are now being portrayed as not weak or incompetent or evil, and to some fragile little minds that makes men "lesser".

Harden the fuck up.

The last Thor movie. Luke Skywalker. Everything Harrison Ford has been in recently. Nick Fury in his own fucking show, apparently. Hell, every Disney production recently. Picard in his first two seasons. Men have to be broken down, incompetent or inept, in need of the better, stronger woman to step in and tell him what to do with himself, never EVER the other way around.

It's a clear mandate, and if your only answer is to deny and gaslight about male insecurity, you can save your breath.

Luke Skywalker who sacrificed himself to stop the deaths of countless individuals? That Luke Skywalker? Sounds pretty fucking macho to me.

Fury? Again, we're ONE FUCKING EPISODE IN.

Thor? The fight with Gorr wasn't the point, and Jane being awesome as Thor doesn't detract from Thor being just as awesome. But not perhaps in the way YOU want. From another site:

And having the confidence to let the woman you love step up to the plate? Yep, that's a man.

What fucking version of Picard were you watching? Yes, he was shat on by those who were angry at him or thought he was past his prime, but HE stopped the synths from summoning the Tentacle Apocalypse. With a speech. Like he always fucking did.

Serialized storytelling really upsets a certain type of person because they're used to seeing a reassuring happy ending at the end of every episode instead of having to wait until the end of the season.

I mean, did UA freak out watching ESB because Luke lost the saber duel and had to call out to Leia to save him?