Wordforge on Welfare

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  1. Yahweh

    Yahweh Folces Weard

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    How many Wrodforgers are on government assistance? I've counted at least four. :marathon:
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  2. The Exception

    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    If getting Pell Grants for school counts as government assistance, then yes. Otherwise no.
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  3. Black Dove

    Black Dove Mildly Offensive

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    I was on unemployment all of last year and part of this year. Then, unlike most people on welfare, I got a job and I'm now self-sufficient.
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  4. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    Yes, most people on welfare have not gotten jobs.
  5. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    I would sooner sleep in my leaky old Jeep, hunting rodents for food.
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  6. Yahweh

    Yahweh Folces Weard

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    It's a pity that Tamar, Nova, Skinofevil, and Kirk don't share that sentiment.
  7. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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    Am I on government assistance when I drive to work in the mornings on a road that the state paid for?
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  8. TheBrew

    TheBrew The Hand of Smod

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    In a literal manner, I would say so.

    Or did I just explain the joke?
  9. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    I'm a government employee. So you tell me.
  10. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    No, the joke started this thread.
  11. Chest Rockwell

    Chest Rockwell I'm a big fuckin' dick.

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    Where did the state get the money to pay for that road?
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  12. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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    From taxation, mostly.
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  13. Chest Rockwell

    Chest Rockwell I'm a big fuckin' dick.

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    And who pays those taxes? The taxpayers. So who actually paid for that road? Hint: it wasn't the state. It was the ___________________ .
  14. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    It is a form of forced collectivism that allows many to benefit WAY more than they'll ever contribute. All paved roads should be toll roads.

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  15. RickDeckard

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    Why not trace the money back further still and insist that those who employ the taxpayers paid for the roads? Or that the customers of those who employ the taxpayers paid for the roads?

    Or perhaps that wouldn't suit how you want to phrase your answer ideologically.
  16. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    Because if you go farther back than that, you're going past the basic premise of self-determination. Do you own your time, or does someone else own you, Rick?
  17. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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    What?

    The taxpayers don't have a problem with paying for roads, so it's a moot point.
  18. Uncle Albert

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    More accurately, the ones that do are shouted down by the ones that don't.
  19. RickDeckard

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    No, I'm not aware of us having any crazies of your type over here.
  20. Dan Leach

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    Same here, I work at a Uni :shrug:
  21. Jenee

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    Uncle Albert doesn't have kids, so, you can't compare him and Nova. I don't know if the other three have kids or not.

    I hate toll roads. I figure, if I have to pay to get on them, I should be able to go as fast as I want to go.
  22. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Jenee is obviously on Welfare - she just admitted she doesn't pay taxes.
  23. Uncle Albert

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    That doesn't exactly follow, but I do agree that there should be a slow lane, a normal lane, and a "fast as you can go without crashing" lane.
  24. Bickendan

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    Tell that to the NYThruway.
  25. Jenee

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    It follows my way of thinking, and that's all that matters - well, that's all that matters in my little fantasy world, anyway.
  26. Uncle Albert

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    Oooh, oooh, and a CELL PHONE LANE, for all you inconsiderate bastards who think it's perfectly acceptable to make everyone else adjust around your phone-impaired driving. Make sure it's nowhere near the main roadway, and make it require special licensing that's reported to your insurance company so only the right peoples' rates go up.
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  27. Caboose

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    Actually, the real joke is in his hand when he takes a whizz, or tries to sastify his boyfriend.
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  28. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Unemployment isn't welfare. It's insurance that you have no choice but to buy. There's nothing wrong with collecting when you need it. If you're a consistent worker, you will probably pay more into it than you ever take out...
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  29. Chest Rockwell

    Chest Rockwell I'm a big fuckin' dick.

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    Of course, a small business owner has to pay into unemployment. They can't collect if their business goes tits up, but oh boy do they have to pay into it.
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  30. enlisted person

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    Wrong, employees do not pay into unemployment insurance. Its payed for by the employers. Most employees never pay shit into unemployment insurance, that is a big myth.