Oh now this is just revolting

It's funny, cause it's true.

^The luxury of hiding behind an Internet "persona," eh?

Yeah, I have a response. Uh . . . what?

WE CAN PUT WORKING SMILIES ON POLLS?!

It's nice to know if I lost insurance and fell behind on the bills and something similar happened to me that so many people would be like...oh well, she couldn't pay, fuck her!

Anyways...

1-3L? I find is extremely hard to believe someone who could die from being removed from support so soon would be at such a low level. Not only that, the article states it was because of obesity and not the heart/lung disease.

For perspective: My O2 level on the concentrator is at 5L. When I was dying, I was about a hair's bredth away from being on a ventilator, on 15L constant, and even I could have survived a power outage if I laid still, didn't panic and focused on my breathing. I survived all night doing just that being an idiot, assuming it was just bronchitis.

I can go without O2...I will be okay..I'll slowly get breathless if I talk to much, I will get much worse on movement.

But practically instantaneous passing out losing 1-3L flow? I have serious doubts.

The article also says it is usually only used 16 out of 24 hours a day.

It also shows things aren't much different over in NZ...if she was that dependent on O2 she wouldn't have been sent home.

There is more here. I smell it.

Well, if you were smart enough to let us know, you've got friends here and people who care about you. I suspect there would be a "Tamar oxygen fund" established, the virtual hat would be passed, and we would continue to be graced with your presence and teh eeeeeeevil workings of the Tamararchives.

All without gub'mint help, even!!

It's the faceless masses I'm a hard-hearted bastard about.

Disconcerting, isn't it?

You're probably right. I'm wondering if maybe this woman just didn't want to live like this anymore, didn't want to continue to be a burden on her family, unable to work. Don't know what Maori tradition is with regard to death, suicide, afterlife, but it's quite possible she just wanted to let go and didn't know any other way to do it.

As for the Propertarians, I think I've figured it out.

Every generation rebels against the media influences of its parents.

My generation rebelled against the impossible world of Ward and June Cleaver in their suburbia that never existed.

Most of the Propertarians are of the Sesame Street generation. All that commie talk about sharing your toys and "That's cooperation!" must be subverted, regardless of the cost.

The outcome is a generation of Gollums clinging to their Precious. Like the dragons in the ancient epics, they are doomed to squandering their lives guarding the piles of gold they have accumulated for their own sake, muttering under their breath "Mine, mine, mine!"

Cold, lonely, sad. Yes, Precioussss...

If, by this term you've persisted in using the past few days, you mean people who recognize unapologetically that capitalism and free markets have contributed more to the living standards of the world than any other single system or development in the entire history of people, and you include those who believe that respect for, and enforcement of, property rights - aside from eminent domain etc. - is one of the essential building blocks of the capitalist/free market system, then it's a compliment. So, thanks.

And while I get you're attempting to take a swipe at libertarians, it isn't really particularly clever, is it? In addition to the fact that it's really a pretty sweet label, which I suspect wasn't initially your intention.

Paladin, Ash, Tamar, etc. --

I'm referring to the Gollums. If you're not a Gollum, no worries.

Whose more selfish and pathetic -- the person who wants to keep what's theirs, or the person who wants a piece of everyone else's stuff?

Well, in all honesty, one is more selfish and the other is more pathetic

But then, I don't find selfishness in and of itself to be a vice.

Grammar Nazi!

If you say that often enough, does the genie grant you three wishes or do you get to go back to Kansas?

Can you sing it to the tune of "Yes, Jesus Loves Me," or does it sound more like "Ohmmmm..."?

Can you answer the question?



Oh, and are people entitled to your work/services even if they don't pay?

The question is binary. The only possible answer is 1/0.

Never was very good at math. Don't know how to reduce real life to either/or equations.

Perhaps not on paper.
But consider this.
If Sammy had finally kicked Normie out of the bar for never paying off his tab, Cheers would have really sucked.


I am the logic breaker.

I bet that goes over big at jury duty

Storm is a tiny little man, standing on the shoulders of giants, who thinks he's a titan because of his view. Everything he has he has because others acting in the concert of society and under society's social compact have made it possible. I'd really like to see what his life would be like living on the ground.

Gets me out of it every time.

Although the last name might also have something to do with it...

Y'know...generally speaking, the more vehemently and desperately someone attempts to disparage or slander another person, the more skeptical I am that any of it is true

That's no better than Storm's tax loopholing

Didn't stop you from repping a shitload of actormike's slams on me.


I guess that "generally speaking", wriggles you out of it being an ironclad maxim eh?

Except when it's one of Storm's posts.

Not really...I was skeptical of Storm's arguments in another thread about another matter the other day when Liet galloped in on his high horse and declared the whole discussion irrelevent.

As it turned out, Liet's comments lifted Storm's cause more than anything Storm said...if only because he was trying to censor it.

I've noticed that Liet has a tendency to elevate the legitimacy of just about any assertion just by criticizing it

Look, what can I tell you?

Clerk calls my name, and before I can get to the jury box, there's a big "approach the bench" flurry among the lawyers on both sides and, "Thank you, Ms. Bonanno, you may step down."

Not that I'm complaining.

And because you're trying to corner the market on irrelevance.

Always with the reactionary deliberating process.

Hey killed her for 62 fucking pounds. She was paying her bill, she was given no notice of an impending disconnect. They fucking murdered her.

Tell me paladin, If someone owed you 62 pounds are you justified in killing them?

I must admit ignorance here. Care to fill me in?