2016 Presidential Election Thread

Why bother using him as the middle man? Donate it directly to veterans in his name. I wouldn't trust him not to use some excuse to pocket it.

You think someone with Trumps money is going to bother with that?

How many rich people do you know garamet?

I've known two kinds of rich people - Old Money and nouveau.

Old Money has the first dollar great-great-granddaddy ever made and wears sweaters that are out at elbow. It talks about its "summer cottage in the Vineyard" (usually a minimum of 12 rooms with a year-round staff) and complains within hearing of the housekeeper that "You just can't find good help anymore." It takes great pride in things like "My great-great-great-grandmother was the first white child born in Rhode Island," and has the ancestral chart to prove it.

Nouveau likes to throw its money around. It can't own enough cars and boats and toys. It likes to build new houses for itself that it seldom lives in for more than a few weeks a year. If you're invited for dinner, the wife will give you a tour. Her husband's pride and joy is "the Game Room" - a mini casino in the basement with a dance floor, a regulation pool table (hubby likes to bounce the eight ball on it to show you the surface has the correct amount of "give"), and of course a wet bar. Wifey's favorite room is "the Library" - a cavernous room with flocked silk wallpaper (she'll tell you how much it cost) lined with - empty - bookshelves.

Nouveau is loud and crude and never quite loses the accent it brought with it from the 'hood when it made its first million. On the kids' 16th birthdays, the boys are given a new car ("Whattaya want, kid? I'll stop short of a Lambo, but a Jag, a Range Rover? Name it, kid."); their daughters start on the first plastic surgery - nose job, boob job, tummy tuck - so they can look just like their (step)mother.

The Trumpster is somewhere between the two. His grandfather made the money, his father augmented it. Neither, AFAIK, ever filed for bankruptcy. Neither, AFAIK, ventured out of real estate into casinos.

Donny is the epitome of what a former employer of mine (he was Old Money, and it was his however-great grandmother who was the first white child born in Rhode Island; he also paid a gardener $200 a month in 1980s money to tend to a 200-year-old live oak on his property because he was trying to get the City of Fairfield to give it landmark status) described as "Money? It's cyclical. The first generation makes it, the second guards it, the third spends it. Then the family starts over."

This is The Man Who Would Be President. If the immigration laws had been as stringent when he grandfather decided to leave Germany as they are now, Donny might be tending the grapevines just outside of Kallstadt in between brawls and window-smashings. The only question is whether or not he'd go full skinhead and dispense with that dead cat on his head.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...261634-sanders-can-win-iowa-and-new-hampshire

Bernie actually stands a chance of winning in Iowa and New Hampshire. He is actually doing better than Obama was doing at this time during the 2008 race.

That said, Hillary seems to have locked up all the big institutional and party elite endorsements before the race even got started. I suppose we will find out if voters give a shit about endorsements from party elites. As an interesting side note Jeb Bush has the most party endorsements on the Republican side.

It's been my experience that endorsements don't mean jack squat. I certainly don't base my decision on who to vote for based on an editorial board.

TED CRUZ = PEE WEE HERMAN (PAUL REUBENS)? Well this makes about as much sense as anything in this election.

This is just a guess, but probably more than you.

You think they got rich by being ethical 100% of the time?

Interested read. Nominating Rubio might not be enough to swing Hispanics, even partially.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...on-minority-candidates-to-win-minority-votes/

The thing is that party elites = elected officials.

Generally speaking, you don't get to be an elected official by being out of step with your electorate. Which is why so much stock is put into their endorsements.

Interesting. But Marco Rubio is not Bobby Jindal.

And the Hispanic voting bloc is very different from the Asian voting bloc.

Asians, on average, tend to be more affluent and better educated than other ethnic groups including, Hispanics, whites, and blacks.

Asians are also less likely to identify as Christian compared to the average Hispanic voter, therefore they tend to be more socially liberal.

Yeah, Asians are socially liberal - as they make their children study till their eyes bleed, even the ones that make their children study the Koran.

Donald Trump Goes Full Fascist

What an ignorant twat.

Did Ted Cruz say he'd nuke the middle-east?

Well, not in the US period, but in colonial times, such tests did exist, (eg quakers hung byMassachusetts puritans). It will be fun to watch gturner and dinner contort themselves in such a way as to demonstrate that religious tests have always been a part of our republic.

Trump's latest brainwave is to ban all Muslims coming to America. He's not taking this presidential election process seriously, is he?

So those Jews fleeing the Nazis were turned away from our ports because ..... ?

To side step the religious test problem what Congress did until 1965 was to make a quota system then just set the quota at or near zero for non European countries.

There's also another angle. From USC 8 §1158. Asylum

Paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien if the Attorney General determines that—
(i) the alien ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion;
...
(iv) there are reasonable grounds for regarding the alien as a danger to the security of the United States;​

Pretty much everyone from the problematic Islamic countries that have any religious minorities has "assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of " ... religion and membership in a particular social group. Christians have been fleeing the region in droves, driven out by Islam extremists with the tacit approval of all the Muslims.

And of course part (iv) applies.

That's racist! How dare you present statistical demographic facts so coldly and callously!

Democrat college students pick Democrat to win for third time in a row. It's infallible!

Didn't sound like it, and look at the results. Neither Bernie nor Hillary has a chance in hell of winning Kentucky, much less Utah. In 2012 Obama didn't even get 25 percent of the vote there. Obama got less than 35 percent of the vote in a bunch of the blue states they show going to Sanders, such as Wyoming, Idaho, West Virginia, and Oklahoma.

I think their method was to hand the students a bunch of crayons.

I don't see a problem. Trump said let's bring a halt to immigration from Islamic people until we can get our act together and sort out the good from the bad. He did not say it was ban-time forever.

And we have religious tests enshrined into immigration law already regarding refugees and immigrants. It's always been there. It's CURRENT law.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...merican-except-federal-law-requires-it-andrew

And there is no legal right to come to America. (or any other country)

America has the right to stop certain groups if it deems that there could be national security issues. I would say letting Islamic people in with a penchant for killing Americans would qualify and since ISIS has publicly stated they are trying to use refugees as a cover to sneak their people into our country we need to take a step back and rethink how we can do this without letting terrorists onto our soil.

The so called vetting that POTUS and his minons say is happening is not happening.

So why is it okay to stop Iraqi refugees for six months to figure out a problem but not okay to stop Syrian refugees or others from the Middle East for a while to figure out a problem?

Oh wow...... they predicted the 2008 and 2012 elections. That must make them fucking geniuses. All hail the college kids from some crap school.

Bernie Sanders? Get the fuck out of here. Hillary will have him shot first.

How about we go with these guys:

And, in nearly every presidential election since 1888, voters here in this blue-collar county have selected the winning candidate, missing only twice: Once, in 1908, when they opted for Williams Jennings Bryan instead of William Howard Taft, and again in 1952, when they chose Adlai Stevenson rather than Dwight D. Eisenhower.

I'll give you a hint: This place isn't going to be voting for Bernie Fucking Sanders anytime soon. Link here

And no I don't believe in "this place has voted X and almost always been right so they must be right now"

wow, how to generalize! I take offense to the last bit. Please rephrase to include "says a lot about many Americans."

It's really 20% of conservatives, so about 10% of yanks that are rabid wankers.