Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker

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  1. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    This is why I look down on star wars fans from the star trek universe. Yes star trek is Magic when you really get down to a lot of the physics of what they do, but they try to lead you to physics and quantum mechanics. They try to tell stories with an understanding of real science rather than just a magical hyperdrive. It shows such a lack of understanding of what a star is that you could even think of siphoning off it's reactive energy and draining it. @Zor Prime those things that you mentioned do not effect the star. Those are broadcast energies that one can collect. They drained the star of it's reactive energy and that is fantastical.

    This is why I put star wars with complete fairy tales and don't consider it science fiction at all. Because there is no science in it. There is magical technology in it> The hyperdrive working seems to be more of how much or little you need it to work rather than any science behind it. Why can't you track people in hyoerspace? Magic. In trek ward fields leave traces which I would imagine would be true if a bubble of alternate spacetime zipped through our space time.

    The Star Wars universe is so stupid. It is really a god did it universe. There is no science to it. That is why the jedi are just psionicists, mages, or clerics. They are like the X men and not really the great force behind the universe. This is why it is all falling apart. It is a fucking religion. That is a bit of why I actually liked the 8th movie when yoda just burned up all the books. You are not even talking about the depth of a good roleplaying game with technology and magic. I have tried to run star wars campaigns and there is no cohesion to the universe so you can just do anything you want.

    That is why everyone thinks it sucks because you are just writing in shit into a formless ruleless universe. It really boils down to the people who are popular and cool are going to become powerful because that is all it is about. It is the dragonball Z of the science fiction realm. The metachlorians readers were basically the old power readers from DBZ. He has a matechlorian level of over 9000. I am just waiting for them to go superjedi. You know it is coming. It is going to be there in the future. They have their foot in the pond with throwing energy bolts.
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  2. tafkats

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    A whole lot of people are saying that. Personally, I'm kind of annoyed by the whole "Any time people show that they care about each other, that must mean it's a romance" thing.
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  3. We Are Borg

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    :wtf:

    :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl:

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  4. Zombie

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    I know right.

    Even I was :wtf: at that one......

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    It's like you can't be friends in a sci-fi show or movie.

    "They hugged?"

    "That must mean they love each other!"

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  6. Steal Your Face

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    It's quite ridiculous. Perhaps the greatest friendship in sci-fi is between Kirk, Spock, and Bones and somebody in fandom just had to make them gay.
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    "There are three people who all care about each other and hugged at the end of the movie? Oh my god, they're a polyamorous triad!"

    Or, y'know, they're friends and they just brought down an evil empire together. Six of one ...
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  8. Tererune

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    I need only one thing to shame your fandom. Jar Jar Binks and metochlorians are cannon.

    That is what you get when your storyteller has the depth of a five year old.
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  9. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    The impulse to "ship" fictional characters who demonstrate friendship toward one another could be an indication that perhaps our society might just be a little bit slightly preoccupied with sex.

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  10. We Are Borg

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    Spock's Brain and "What does god need with a starship?" are also canon.

    And let's not even talk about the abortions that were Voyager and Enterprise.

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  11. Zombie

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    Or the Q.

    Sure I liked the stories but let's just say that Q is as magical as anything in Star Wars.

    Or Genesis. Sure we can make whole planets from nothing. Even bring back the dead and appropriately age them to the point they where just before they died.
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    Yeah. Trek has never been what you’d call hard sci-fi.

    But at least in the old incarnations they did make some attempt to stay consistent with the science of the day.

    I remember being surprised to read that Isaac Asimov himself was a scientific consultant to TMP.

    And apparently he was there at the one of the early screenings of ‘The Cage’.

    Brannon Braga was one of the worst offenders with his ‘DNA is like magic’ storylines.
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  13. Diacanu

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    It's no different than all the heterosexual shipping, it's just taking stories often devoid of sexuality and relaitionships and pumping them up with sexuality and relationships. The orientation is irrelevant. If you want really over the topness you have to go to the Supernatural fandom where there's reams of stuff about the brothers being lovers.
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    I preferred it when Rey came from nothing, was nobody,had no lineage.
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  18. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Why is it so hard to follow? The characters literally explain what is happening. The movie doesn't show us what is happening, because it's less of a movie and more of a series of fan fic scenes stitched together.

    The Emperor has been hiding out on the planet Testicle, waiting for Rey and friends to visit the Beetlejuice sandworm planet to attend a Diwali festival because a Jedi Hunter visited it before. But wait! The Emperor has been building thousands of Star Destroyers with Death Star laser beams attached to them!

    And then they literally recreate the pod racing scene in the Beetlejuice planet, but with the addition of jet packs and force jumps.

    Then a bunch of unrelated scenes happen, tied together by characters explaining exposition rather than letting us view the plot develop first hand. And there's some target objective they have to hit in the bullseye so that the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. And for some reason only an antenna is keeping thousands of Star Destroyers from forgetting the upward direction in which they are already traveling.

    Rey pouts, Kylo pouts. Finn swoons, Rose swoons. Jim Henson's muppet division recreates Carrie Fisher. C3PO loses his memory for no fucking reason because he gets it back 15 minutes later. Anthony Daniels shows up as a fighter pilot.

    The three main leads, whom we've never seen have any camaraderie (thanks partly to them being in entirely different movies in Last Jedi), suddenly cannot function without each other. Also the Emperor planned to Deatheater suck the life force out of Rey and Kylo Ren because he knew Rey would never kill him and that Kylo Ren would betray him. Someone is someone's (grand)father. Muppet Carrie Fisher sacrifices herself. Hux hilariously proclaims that he was the spy, no one gives a flying fuck, and he is unceremoniously executed.

    A disappointing lack of war hero Jar Jar Binks.




    I really wanted to like this movie. But it just felt so awfully rushed. It's almost as if half of this movie was supposed to take place in Last Jedi.
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  19. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Oh well. I'm sure the next entry in Disney's Marvel Cinematic Universe will be better. Which if I'm not mistaken will be...

    *checks list*

    Black Widow?! :facepalm:
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  21. Diacanu

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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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  24. Diacanu

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    Billie Lourd was young Leia in the training flashback.
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  25. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I was right!
    The TROS visual dictionary says the arena of chanting Sith worshippers (their official name is Sith Eternals) used their powers to resurrect Palpatine.
    Also, they mind-controlled people from a distance to smuggle parts to build that fleet of star destroyers.
    Also, their kids are the Sith Troopers.

    Source (buried almost at the bottom)
    https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-...-baby-yoda-puppet-more-star-wars-news-a172695
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  26. 14thDoctor

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    Jesus Christ. :jayzus:

    Details on the original directors plan for Episode IX:

    https://news.avclub.com/turns-out-colin-trevorrows-version-of-star-wars-episod-1841002112
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  27. Steal Your Face

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    Not surprised at all.
  28. Diacanu

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    Meh, it reads like a mess.
    The JJ one is better.
    IMHO.
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  29. Steal Your Face

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    All of witch we didn’t see on screen because of lazy writing.
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  30. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    The JJ one is a huge mess.
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