SARS II: Respiratory Boogaloo

He surrendered as soon as he saw the COVID-19 virus.

IMO it's both political and economic. It shows the incestuous nature of the US system.

Pfizer worked with BioNTech, it's solution came from Germany, and the German government helped back the research. They took no money from the US.

Trump wants credit for the vaccine, and his lackeys are everywhere claiming that he saved us personally from covid.

Not only did the US govt give Moderna $2.5 billion for development, the head of that project 'Operation Warp Speed' was a board member on Moderna. While he stepped down from the board, he still has stock, and MedCity News reported he made $3 million in stock gains the day when the vaccine was annonced.

can you prove that in a court of law or is that just your opinion? Just wondering....

It's based on years of observed evidence.

The volume of which grew exponentially during the Trump years.

I'm not on twitter I just copied the link from another site. Anyway, "needle free" vaccines are a great idea! Watch close - no needle on the syringe for the "reenactment" of getting the shot.
Also there are vids of people getting a "blank" shot where the plunger is never even pressed on the syringe. Interesting!

Hmm.....my link won't show. I'll try another method.

oh, "observed evidence" like the 47 percent of Americans (on both sides) who feel that the presidential election was botched? Well you are in good company with your baseless charges.

There are not 47% of Democrats who feel that the presidential election was botched.

That simply isn't true, and saying it as if it was won't make it so.

Where do you get this from?

Can you read? I said 47 percent of Americans (on both sides) believe it. And of those 47 percent no doubt the Republicans would make up the majority, but Democrats also are part of this 47 percent.
At no point did I say that 47 percent of Democrats believe this. Regardless many millions of Democrats also believe that the election was shady. They along with all Americans want legit elections.

still can't shake that TDS? Hopefully they come with a vaccine for it, but it looks like long-term effects may be a problem.

Damn I thought I posted a link. Let me correct that - give me a few minutes:

Half of Republicans say Biden won because of a 'rigged' election: Reuters/Ipsos poll | Reuters

"Altogether, 55% of adults in the United States said they believed the Nov. 3 presidential election was “legitimate and accurate,” which is down 7 points from a similar poll that ran shortly after the 2016 election. The 28% who said they thought the election was “the result of illegal voting or election rigging” is up 12 points from four years ago."

Poll: Both Democrats and Republicans believe there is a possibility of rigged election | TheHill

I can't find the original link - I might have been on a different forum but I don't have time right now, my wife has me running errands. But of course more Republicans than Democrats think the election was shady because they lost (that portion of the election) but next time it could be a Democrat losing. In Georgia it's the Republican leadership's fault for not pushing for more common sense voting requirements. Were they afraid of being called racist? Boo hoo, you will be called racist by default, so what's the difference? The Republicans made the very voting rules that they claim were easy to exploit. Hey, Republicans brought it on themselves. January 5 is another chance for Georgia to get it right or get it wrong concerning running an election fairly and efficiently.

Fixed it for you.

Trump Disgust Syndrome? It's been a factor since he evicted his first tenant from his first NY property in the 1980s. It might go away after he chokes on his last Big Mac. I'll let you know.

That's from before the election, asking whether it is possible that someone will try and rig it! Come on!!

I can read several languages, thank you. Can you? If not, then you should probably refrain from assuming that the reason people don't understand what you write is necessarily because they can't read properly. Don't you think there's even a chance that maybe what you wrote wasn't properly expressed?

You put it in a way that gave the impression that the problem is pretty much even on both sides. That is not the case. Phrasing your claims in a way that gives that impression is not honest reporting of the facts, and coming back later with an accusation that anyone who took it at face value "can't read" is not very honest.

The problem is that for about half of Republican voters, "legit elections" means "elections that Republicans win". They assume that if the Republican candidate lost, it must mean the election was rigged.

And it is telling that despite one court after another throwing out the claims and saying there was no indication of any meaningful fraud, including judges appointed by Trump, despite one total debunking after another of very dubious claims of election fraud, they continue to believe it. That shows clearly that no amount of information will change their minds: a "legitimate election" has to mean an election where the Republican won, because if the Republican lost, it must have been rigged. QED.

And some people wonder why I have completely and definitively turned my back on the Republican Party.

Warning: satire ahead:


Study Confirms Nose Holes Connect to Lungs
Below-the-nose mask wearers shocked by science

This is called "Confirmation Bias".

16% to 68%. Your own link (reuters).

Trump's Covid vaccine chief admits delivery mistake

He took full responsibility and apologized for his mistake. That's the difference between a career soldier and an appointed Trump lackey.

Who gets fired first, him or Pompeo?

Well, Trump doesn't care about people getting vaccinated unless he gets to take credit for it, but he does care deeply about being contradicted and about what Daddy Vlad thinks of him, so ...

trust me, nobody wonders.

regardless that's still a lot of people. Sooner versus later the Democrats will be on receiving end of what they believe is a faulty election. I can't wait to see your reaction.

So you agree that education and a global worldview can help intelligent people break out of the narrow little walled-in universe that the GOP has conditioned them to believe is the only reality?

first you need to find me actual examples of these "intelligent people" you speak of.

Start with @Asyncritus.

if he was conservative most of leftforge would be calling him stupid just for being a Christian. Change my mind.

And naturally, every single time somebody believes an election is faulty, their beliefs have exactly the same amount of grounding in fact, and there cannot be any difference between the situations.

He was one of the right-leaning posters until Trump came in and he changed to what now passes for "liberal" in your eyes.