SARS II: Respiratory Boogaloo

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  1. Tererune

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    correlation does not mean causation.
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    Does this account for the fact that obesity makes one more vulnerable to both diseases independently?
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    Type I is genetic.
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  4. Tuckerfan

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    Well, the study used data on US-based kids and the article doesn't say if they accounted for that or not, but there have been studies in Europe that have shown similar things.

    Somebody raised the issue that long-term health effects from diseases might be more common than we think. Nobody really noticed it before because they weren't paying as much attention to diseases as they did with COVID. Just as HIV/AIDS forced us to rethink a lot of things in medicine (as well as develop new medicines, etc.), I'm sure that COVID is going to do the same going forward.
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    Actually, both types have strong genetic links.
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    I'm assuming he's vaxxed (don't quite know the age cutoff in the USA, but he'd be eligible here in Canuckistan).

    Hoping for a speedy recovery!
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    He is. Picked it up at school this week. They reopened without mandatory testing. And only distributed tests on Friday…
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    Have you tested? (Sprays monitor with Lysol)
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    Yes. Everyone else is negative.
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  13. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Too bad they can’t help herd immunity by spreading it among their peers.
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  14. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Never mind, I just realized the vaccinated will spread it in their absence.
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    Too bad I don't teach my children to kill others like you do, "Christian."
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  16. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Too bad you’re deceived and do teach your children to kill.
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    It's likely a majority, vaccinated or not, will get omicron. This might lead to heard immunity at least until the next mutation.

    In the meantime, hospitals are worse off than during the previous covid peaks.

    A buffer is needed to avoid more deaths from covid and other causes where hospitalization is the only means of surviving.
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  18. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Yes. Doctors should lose reluctance to treat COVID early with options proven effective that are cheap.
    too bad COVID treatment has been politicized by the left.
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  19. The Original Faceman

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    Oh. So you’re a horse and Covid is a parasite. Got it.
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  20. Bailey

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    Jesus fucking Christ you're stupid.

    You really think there's some conspiracy by doctors to not treat patients and thus make their own job a hundred times harder?
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  21. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Of course I don't think there is a conspiracy by doctors to not treat patients.
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    If they aren't working together then the vast majority of doctors looking at the evidence independently and saying it doesn't add up carries a lot more weight than randos on the internet.
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    It has been our experience in TN that most doctors are beholden to the hospital groups they work for and that administrators have tremendous financial incentive to run everything related to COVID poorly.
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    So it's not a conspiracy, it's just a coordinated effort to increase peoples suffering to make as much money from Covid as possible.

    And most other doctors throughout the world are in on it as well.
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    You mean like when the Republican-controlled State Assembly voted down expanding Medicaid/Medicare, despite the fact that Republican Governor Bill Haslam supported it? Thus meaning lots of rural hospitals would be forced to close because they couldn't afford to treat patients without insurance? Or are you talking about something else, like how doctors in every state have been beholden to what insurance companies were willing to pay for since at least the late 80s, if not before?
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    Yes, doctors in other countries also do what their masters tell them. Though most are too intelligent to think what they're doing is a good thing. Cowardice is a plague on our society.
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    I guess it’s up to uneducated internet warriors to save us from big science.
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  28. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Well, I'd never form my own opinions without access to a priest, so don't worry!
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    So it's not a conspiracy, it's just a global arrangement whereby the majority of doctors are refusing to give useful treatments in order to make people more sick as this benefits their masters.
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    But enough about your first sexual experience.
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