Trouble in America

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  1. matthunter

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    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...boys-assault-video_n_621c87a3e4b0afc668c2eda2
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  2. shootER

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  3. matthunter

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  4. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Wake up your phone. Start recording video in 1080p and stream it to Facebook. How long is that battery is going to last? If the answer is anything less than 13 hours...

    I know first hand that the iPhone 13 Pro uses about 35% of its battery when live streaming one hour of video up to Facebook. We had our A/V gear at church go out and I had to use my iPhone on a tripod to broadcast the service for three weeks in a row.

    That's a...4500 m/a battery? Most body cameras have 1/5 of that and they certainly don't have a cellular radio (and associated plan) for streaming.
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  5. Tererune

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    There should be no need for streaming on an SSD based recording system. You could probably have it locked and redundant so that even if it were to be smashed you could recover it. If you wanted a more remote copy you could easily set up some storage in the vehicle that would automatically copy and store without the need for long range transmission for streaming.
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  6. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    While I agree that's not standard, that's coming.

    My phone has it, and it isn't particularly expensive. $250. I don't have to charge the battery for days.

    The technological limitations aren't that massive. But I think you'd hit pretty large refusal to use it in that manner. Most cops seem to be more than a little hypocritical about surveillance. That's a thing for police, not civilians.

    Perhaps the single biggest road block to police reform seems to come from the Police Unions themselves.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    heh-in the stillframe his nametag reads "killingsworth".
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    I guess Tacoma is a place where idiots can find steady work as police officers. :chris:
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    FTFY.
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    I'm curious about the specifics of this pattern.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Gotta find the gaps between quarks to pretzel contort yourself through, right Plastic Man?
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  15. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    OK.

    In a 72-page report, the human rights department said the MPD "engages in a pattern or practice of discriminatory, race-based policing," citing "racial disparities in how MPD officers use force, stop, search, arrest, and cite people of color;" "officers' use of covert social media to surveil Black individuals and Black organizations, unrelated to criminal activity;" and "MPD officers' consistent use of racist, misogynistic, and disrespectful language."

    As an example, the report notes that "MPD's data shows that during the time neck restraints were permitted under MPD policy, MPD officers were almost twice as likely to use neck restraints against Black individuals than white individuals who MPD officers recorded as behaving in the same way when interacting with police and whose police interaction stemmed from the same alleged offense or event."

    The report also alleges that these problems are caused primarily by the department's organizational culture, citing "deficient" training that "emphasizes a paramilitary approach to policing that results in officers unnecessarily escalating encounters or using inappropriate levels of force."

    One expert review of the MPD's use of force files found that MPD officers used "unnecessary and inappropriate levels of force in 52.6% of incidents in which they used a neck restraint, and in 37.1% of incidents in which they sprayed chemical irritants against individuals of all racial and ethnic backgrounds," the report said.

    The report also called the department's accountability procedures, "inefficient and ineffective," and said the department has not done enough to address racial disparities.


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  16. Uncle Albert

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    The language thing is a non-starter. Fuck off with the whining about hurtful language.

    Extra patrols in a neighborhood because of the race of the inhabitants is no good. Extra patrols in a neighborhood with a proven rate of higher crime is good policing.

    Unnecessarily escalation doesn't sound race specific. It sounds like a force made up of ill-tempered hotheads who found a job where they could get away with it.

    As for unnecessary, though..I need to see "necessity" defined. Are the terms being set such that letting someone go is preferable to employing force?
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    Let's say a guy is known for saying racist things.
    Let's say this same guy gets in a situation with a black person.
    Let's say there aren't any cameras. It's one person's word or the other.
    I don't know about you, but I'd believe the guy saying racist shit is probably doing racist shit.
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  18. Jenee

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    Also, why assume the people who wrote the report didn't take all those things into consideration?
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  19. Uncle Albert

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    Don't hire the idiot for your police force.

    What you believe should never be confused with what you can prove. I'm a big fan of body cameras. I think they should be recording for their entire shift, and the footage uploaded daily to a publicly accessible server no matter who it incriminates or embarrasses.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    of course, more heavily policed neighbourhoods net more arrests/fines for minor violations...
    It's fish in a barrel for the cops to come through the park near me and write up a bunch of open alcohol fines to the unhoused, but damned if they care about the thousand condo dwelling weekenders a couple parks over.
    how many times have you been let off with a warning for something that other folks might get time for? or are you so obtuse as to think that enforcement disparity isn't a thing/you've always paid the harshest for your mistakes?
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  21. Uncle Albert

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    I'm sneaky enough to avoid the harshness. Open containers in public is some bush league, amateur hour bullshit.

    And "houseless." :jayzus: Whatever you do, don't hurt the feelings of the dude taking a dump on a pile of syringes outside your home or place of employment, and don't you DARE suggest there are better uses for his money than booze.
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    and then she gives UA a hummer. I wonder why he clearly does not take you seriously.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    WTF are you talking about you racist @Jenee fucker?
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  25. tafkats

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    When he gets out, I wonder if he'll immediately get hired as a cop by some whitebread suburb.
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  26. We Are Borg

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    Where I live, any criminal conviction without pardon automatically disqualifies you from being a police officer.
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    Even if a felony conviction were not a disqualifying condition (which I would have to think it is in most cases), I tend to doubt that a police agency would be so tone-deaf as to give anyone involved in the George Floyd murder a job, and I tend to doubt that anyone involved in the murder would want to go back to law enforcement.
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  28. Jenee

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    Your faith in law enforcement agencies is ... surprising.
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    There's a pretty longstanding tradition of police officers getting fired for misconduct and immediately getting jobs in other departments, often in podunk towns where they either don't mind cops roughing up Black people, or view it as a plus. But an actual criminal conviction might change that.
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