Roe v. Wade

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  1. Damar

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    Are you suggesting that abortions are occurring right before birth? Any medical professional can tell you that’s not happening.
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  3. TheLonelySquire

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    I'm not suggesting that, at least not here. Are you in agreement that a child 5 minutes before birth is not alive?
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    As Jack has pointed out, yes, he has. He, apparently, has experienced a stillbirth firsthand.

    And since you are not a doctor or OB/GYN, what makes you think it's not possible?
  5. Damar

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    It’s a fetus up until birth. Meaning it’s in a pre-birth developmental stage. It becomes alive when it draws breath.
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    Birth and alive aren't the same thing. But I'm sure you science deniers already know this.
  8. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    My fingernails are made of living cells, and made of human DNA.

    Being alive and being a human being are not the same thing.

    It always goes back to this example - if there is a fire in a genetics lab, and you have the choice to save a tray of 100 fertilized eggs or one 6 year old little girl, every single human on the planet is saving the person, not the theoretical person someday.
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  9. TheLonelySquire

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    Using your scenario, you'd choose a 70 year old male over the 6 year old girl, correct?
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  10. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    LOL. No. Does someone really need to explain it to you?
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    Please do.
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  12. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Once there is a brain with neural activity it's a human. That's why 3rd trimester abortions are severely limited in almost all cases to only those fetuses that aren't viable, or if there is a threat to the health of the mother. Some also in cases in rape and incest, but even that is qualified in many states in the 3rd trimester.

    See, even you can understand. :D
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    No they're not. Your fingernails are made of keratin, not cells, and there's no DNA in them except for in whatever skin cells hitch a ride as they grow out, any more than there is in your hair (excluding the follicle).
  14. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    You might want to look up your assumption there, chief.

    https://www.healthline.com/health/b...ils-made-of#1.-Your-nails-are-made-of-keratin

    Keratin is a type of protein that forms the cells that make up the tissue in nails and other parts of your body.
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    Okay, not living cells. And they're enucleated (along with all the other organelles) as they fill up with keratin and die, so there's still no DNA.
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    Florida lawsuit challenges deSantis' anti-abortion bill on religious grounds.

    Of course, we all know the main religious forces behind the GOP don't give a shit about Jews except that they are needed for the End Times, but it'll be interesting to see if they'll actually admit it.
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  18. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    It would be logical that they'd carve out an exemption for Jews.

    Then we get 150 million new Jewish converts in America. :D
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    Eh. Could be worse. Could convert to [Christian denomination here] :diacanu:
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    Also, Heritage has published a paper which contemplates mercifully NOT locking up mothers who abort but instead committing them for a psych evaluation equivalent to what might be done after a suicide attempt - mandatory.
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    So, basically the theoretical example I made up at TNZ to try to shock Dayton into sanity 20 years ago, they want to actually do.
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    No. Dayton would be their poster boy for right thinking. :brood:
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  24. Steal Your Face

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    I may not be a huge fan of abortions, but this is definitely a step too far.
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    Oh, don't worry, this is their "compromise" solution to placate people. If they manage to get this enacted, they'll push for more extreme measures before the ink is dry on the law.
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    Why?

    If you believe that abortions should be illegal do you believe they are murder?
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    Black ones, too! Oh Sammy, we hardly knew ya!
  28. Steal Your Face

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    I don’t think they should be illegal.
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  29. tafkats

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    Well, it's OK -- this won't actually happen. I don't see Roe being overturned. It's all just fear mongering.
  30. Steal Your Face

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    That was referring to the Supreme Court.