The Impeachment of Joseph R. Biden

Which ones? Be specific.

The ones who admitted that the reason they couldn't do a deeper investigation into Hunter because the IRS just doesn't have enough people and money to do so? (For well over a decade now, they've only had one IRS agent to investigate Trump's taxes.) Remind me again your stance on the IRS hiring more agents and getting more money?

Which ones?

Which ones?

I'll bite: How does any of that prove corruption?

Again, how does any of that prove corruption?

Oh, and what's your thoughts on this:
Pentagon protested false Fox News report about fallen Marine, emails show

Was it wrong for the Pentagon to do this? And how do you think that this is different than asking Twitter to take down Hunter's dick pics?

This you?

Rapid fire questions,
The ones who testified in front of Congress
The ones who testified in front of Congress
The ones who have been reporting on the story
The jawboning
The jawboning
The pentagon is not to be trusted. We know this based on their history.

Where’s the evidence? There’s no evidence!

Oh, no! Dale Gribble’s hit me with pocket sand!

You’re pathetic. You know if you tried to give answers to those questions you’d get your ass pummeled over your stupidity, so you spit out something just short of gibberish and hope that, what? We’ll miss you can’t answer them?

Not even remotely true. Jesus Christ. I don’t even care a little bit, but typing one sentence into Google and found this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

Something tells me that you never got far enough in your studies on formal or informal logic to have a serious grasp of what "prove" means.

Hint: allegations are not proof. Otherwise, you would have to admit that half of Wordforge has "proved" that you are still a minor.

The fact that Biden bragged on getting Shokin fired is not in question.

What is in question is 1. whether he did so in order to benefit Hunter or himself financially or some other improper purpose. and 2. Assuming 1 is true, whether it is illegal.

Again, having subpoena power, devoted investigators, access to various government records, it should be fairly simple over the course of years to show at least some substance to the notion of Joe Biden seeking out the firing of this prosecutor to shield Burisma or for some help to Hunter. One would think there would be e-mails circulating among Burisma execs complaining about this prosecutor and how much heat he's putting on them, evidence in Ukraine about the investigations into Burisma that he was starting, communications between Burisma and Hunter or Joe Biden, communications between Hunter and Joe Biden that would reflect the notion that Burisma wanted the prosecutor gone and there might be a little something in it for Hunter or Joe if hat happened.

Instead, what you have was that a number of other allies who wanted this prosecutor gone. Were they all also in Hunter Biden's pocket? Mesmerized by the dick pics that he sent them?

It was the official policy of the Obama administration to force Shokin out. They were backed by a bipartisan committee including multiple Republican senators, the EU, the IMF, and the World Bank, all who thought Shokin was preventing investigation into Yanukovych's corruption in the previous administration. Shokin fired an anti-corruption crusader working in his department trying to prosecute these crimes right before Shokin himself was forced to resign.

It's the same old bullshit. Trumpists: Ukraine is corrupt, you can't send themm any money. You know, because Trumpists are Russian poodles. When the West does act to stop corruption, suddenly THAT is corrupt. Fuck off with this nonsense.


Opposition to Shokin was also a clear policy of the Obama administration and had been for some time. In September 2015, then-U. S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt blasted Shokin, citing “the failure of the institution of the prosecutor general of Ukraine to successfully fight internal corruption.” He added: “The United States stands behind those who challenge these bad actors.” The next month, then-Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland testified to the Senate that Shokin’s “office has to be reinvented as an institution that serves the citizens of Ukraine, rather than ripping them off.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/25/hunter-biden-joe-biden-burisma-ukraine-impeachment/


CNN’s KFile found a February 2016 bipartisan letter signed by several Republican senators that urged then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to “press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office and judiciary.”

The letter shows that addressing corruption in Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s office had bipartisan support in the US and further undercuts a baseless attack made by President Donald Trump and his allies that Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire then Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin to stop investigations into a Ukrainian natural gas company that his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board of. There is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden, nor is it clear whether Hunter was under investigation at all.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/poli...oed-biden-on-ukraine-reforms-kfile/index.html


The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite. He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power. 1/3As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders. In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.” With this pressure mounting, Parliament on Tuesday voted by a comfortable margin to remove Mr. Shokin. In the final hours before Parliament voted him out, Mr. Shokin had fired his reform-minded deputy prosecutor, David Sakvarelidze, with whom he had been feuding. It was not immediately clear whether that firing would remain in force.

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD046.pdf

You've been trying?

He's been extremely trying.

Checks out.

I did give answers to those questions and you did exactly as I predicted you would do.

Nope. You gave vague statements that could be applied to a number of different things.

Would you like to tell us how Shokin’s Burisma investigation, suspended two years before Hunter Biden was hired, contributed to Joe Biden trying to corruptly get Shokin removed to benefit Hunter?

Sounds like you knew they were bullshit arguments that would easily be debunked

Buried in the Politico story is this:



https://www.politico.com/newsletter...gop-mulls-some-impeachment-hypocrisy-00113436

These are just a list of paranoid right wing grievances not evidence of anything.

And the majority of which you don’t even have a superficial understanding of (remember you not knowing the difference between Comer’s ‘whistleblowers’ and Gym Jordan’s? If you have forgotten I’ll bump your post for you).

Remember how everything you alleged in the Twitter Files thread got demolished to the point were you just ignored it and had to start a new one about the Facebook Files?

Remember how after three weeks of hounding you actually listened to intelligent people talk about the contents of the Facebook Files and admitted it was almost nothing?

And yet here you are.

Going right back to those same tired conspiracy theories while Raoul and others try to actually engage and you just ignore them.

As you do.

Because you aren’t here to discuss or learn anything. You are only here to try and score points in your game of one. But since you refuse to learn anything you just keep running off the same cliffs again and again and again.

For real. Stop buying your ‘How to Win Arguments on the Internet’ books from ACME.

So has Joe been impeached yet?

No, because impeachment is only performative. It ios much better for the sheeple on both sides to not impeach and show how impotent and worthless you are because you are never serious about charging a president on either side with a crime.

Impeach Biden and then show the whole world repugs do not have any power to get him out of office and stop him from running in a second term because you will never convict him and throw him in prison.

Trump is guilty of treason, financial crimes, obstruction, trying multiple ways to corrupt and steal elections, perjury, and plotting a coup. Is any of that stopping him from running and being the top criminal in the repug party? He was impeached twice and had multiple investigations by the house which have turned up thousands of pages of evidence against him. He has foreign properties, millions of dollars, a private jet, multiple passports, probably a room open for him at the Kremlin and in NK, and they will not even think of putting him into a cell.

Impeachment is a plus for Biden. It is going to show him as the ultimate anti-repug when he is Donald Trump's greatest protector. He chose one of the few AG's that promised to never be the prosecutor. Just clean up corrupt Joe's rep by making him more of the anti-repug when he is the non-donald choice for repugs.

The best thing for the repug house to do is never impeach and blame the dems and any repug enemies of MTG, Bobert, and Trump as the reason why they will not do more than a sham investigation that is based on suggestion and innuendo. They know it which is why they are trying desperately to convince the hard right morons to stop forcing them to show their multisuit 2,4,5,6,7 poker hand.

When you have nothing keep the bluff going forever until you get back in power. DFo not ever show that humiliating powerless impeachment for what it is like the Dems did. 2 impeachments and two years of doing nothing to donald only turns off any voter paying attention.

Bump.

Hope you are prepared to keep this up for a couple weeks. Billy’s ODD means he will continue to ignore you.

Speaking of…

You gotta respect Comer’s LTPR to ensure he doesn’t cross over into slander. A yes or no question from Hannity on having physical evidence of Joe Biden criminality and he takes 10 seconds to come up with ‘I think so, yes’.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1697246153685778618

What does LTPR stand for?

Listen
Think
Pause
Respond

Listen to all they say, don’t interrupt.
Think about what they are really saying.
Pause and rerun your thinking, make sure you got it.
Respond.

Some misguided youth end up at a place called SERE School. LTPR is a subject taught there and I have found it a useful mental technique for media appearances in the civilian world.

Who’s Billy?

I’m not playing gotcha games.

The fact you think it's a gotcha game is telling.

It’s what he does. All of the time.