All Black comic book characters should be replaced with white actors for film adaptations

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    It's an alternate universe. Same reason you get organic webshooters instead of Spidey building his own like in the comics. Same reason Dunst Mary Jane preceded Gwen Stacey. Same reason Doc Ock was a decent guy with evil brainwashy arms, instead of the standard bad guy he's always been. Same reason Rhino wasn't the classic guy in the goofy suit. Same reason aunt May isn't elderly and white haired anymore.

    But go ahead, keep whining. :dayton:
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  2. K.

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    Because race isn't all-important when describing a character, or indeed a person.

    Just look how it distorts your perception.

    You're claiming that this woman:

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    looks more like this picture:

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    than this woman:

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    Which only makes sense when you have very specific artificial lines drawn in your head that just don't apply to the concepts in which Stan Lee's stories are defined.
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    Tuvok by christopher plummer.
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    Ok, I stand corrected on this point. I still don't think for a minute that whites are in danger of disappearing from the movies, and the main point remains that race just isn't a good concept in general nor to measure this, but that list was much more than I thought anyone could easily come up with, so kudos.
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    Respect for the source material? :unsure:
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    It's about ethics in fictional superhero journalism!
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    Once more, since every original source and their authors disagree with a racial definition of this character, that's bullshit.
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  10. K.

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    About 15 pages so far.
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    So nothing, gotcha. :techman:
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    I noticed Shailene Woodley was cast for ASM2 as MJ?

    I'm sorry, but whaaaaaaa...? That girl is even homelier than Dunst was, and I will never not see her as Amy "Entitlement Bitch From Hell Who Is The Only Protagonist of Any Show that Fans Hated More than Jonathan Goddamn Archer" Jeurgens from Secret Life of the American Teenager, even if she wins more Oscars than Meryl Streep. :clyde:
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    8 of those 15 movies have one of the same 3 lead actors. Just saying.
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    The other thing is, many of those movies have limited appeal to the mainstream non black audience or depict us in idiot stereotypes. It proves a point about the types of roles offered to black actors. Unless you're a big name like Will Smith, you aren't getting cast as a lead if you're black.

    And FF is even more stupid because Menace 2 Society is the common abbreviation of #8 on the list :jayzus:
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    MAH SOURCE MATERIAL :sob: L. FRANK BAUM IS SPINNIN IN HIS GRAVE!!! :sob:
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    (also, it was an objectively terrible movie mainly because it gave me nightmares as a child)
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    He screwed it up. Menace II Society is an excellent film by the Hughes brothers (Dead Presidents, The Book of Eli) about how some people get ahead when the convential means are closed to them. Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood is a parody film by the Wayans brothers which pokes fun at a variety of "black" movie tropes.
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  20. 14thDoctor

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    And Mary Jane is a friggin model in the comics. Isn't it more of an outrage for the purists that she be played by only somewhat attractive women? :borg:
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    I was asked to name one movie without white male leads. I wasn't asked about anything else regarding those movies.
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  22. Steal Your Face

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    Nope, I'm saying that the character is white and I'm asking why you someone would cast a black girl to play a white character? I can't seem to get an answer for that. Answering a question with a question is not an answer.
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    Tell me, which of these women are "black?"

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    Can you arrange them from lightest to darkest for me? :borg:
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  24. Steal Your Face

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    Doe this character look white or black to you?
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    Now look who's not answering questions. :borg:
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    You're purposely being obtuse, you damn well Mary Jane is depicted as white and has been the entire run of the comic, so shove your bullshit up your ass.
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    It's been explained to you that a movie is not the same as a comic book, yes? This concept was made clear to you? :chris:

    The pictures above made it clear to you what "white" and "black" aren't as easily defined as you'd like them to be, yes? That "black" people can have lighter skin and "white" people can have darker skin? You understand that?

    Say, did you even try to look for a job today? You're not going to have time to work at the burger shack once you're back in school :borg:
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    I honestly don't care that much, but it is fun to see people trip over themselves to justify their double standard. :diacanu:
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