You can't have an objective standard where not all those who hold that such a standard exists can agree on what that standard is. Or rather, it can theoretically exist but it cannot be practically applied. For example, if you have 100 Christians who firmly agree that God's word is THE objective moral standard by which we judge the morality of all actions, and 50 of them argue that those standards forbid a woman from wearing pants as immoral, and the other fifty disagree, then you no longer have a usable moral standard even among themselves on that point. Even if their is, objectively, a right answer to that dispute (insofar as what God wants) All morality, as a practical matter, is a result of the consensus of the culture. What is moral here, according to our culture, is not the same as what is moral in Saudi Arabia in theirs - and what is immoral now, in ours, is not the same as what was considered immoral in - say - 1950. So in practical effect, no, there's no workable objective always the same in all times and all places morality. Just what the given culture collectively recognizes.
"You can’t unfold a newspaper, pin it to the wall, and throw a dart and not hit a story about someone getting canceled for something." "Back in the day, Gina Carano, for instance, would have had her public appearances limited and scripted, but she’d still have a job and no one would be the wiser." Which are both a function of visibility, not frequency. Back in the day, if Gina had been fired, it MIGHT have been a passing blurb in the gossip column of said newspaper and otherwise no one would know about it unless the read an outraged screed in a John Birch Society pamplet about the evil Jews at Disney. It strike me as farcical to suppose it was less so in the past. For example, in almost all of American culture well into the 70's, at least, the quickest road to the unemployment line was to be exposed as gay - look at how many dudes hid it all their life specifically because they liked having a career. How is that different from what today's pansies call "cancel culture"? You could be blackballed in any manner of ways for any manner of transgression of the "moral norms" and it has been ever thus - it just used to be that there was no outrage culture to bitch about it. (and to be clear, some such things ARE outrageous and SHOULD provoke a public debate about whether THIS "canceling" was called for - that too is part of the evolving cultural morality the author speaks of)
Like Southern white supremacist segregationists for most of our history? Did we force them to stop that because God said so or because society finally got their fill of it?
Conservatives invented cancel culture. People got canceled for being gay, for not being Christian, for failure to jump up and down screaming that the 9/11 hijackers were cowardly poopyheads. The Dixie Chicks got canceled for disagreeing with Bush's foreign policy. Hell, they tried to cancel an entire country for that. (Freedom fries, anyone?) Beatles records got burned because John Lennon made an offhand quip about being "bigger than Jesus." They're just mad that it's not longer exclusively a tool that they can use to "punch down."
The Hollywood blacklist is the greatest example of "cancel culture" ever. Even people who kept "communist" beliefs to themselves were outed by their "friends" and colleagues who cracked under pressure (to put their betrayals in the best possible light).
Not to mention the fact that Fatty Arbuckle was pretty much canceled by most of America for something he likely didn't do.
Yes, but there was an opportunity to magnify the implications of those two. Pull them out of the overall to focus on that point which I think is a common "today is different and worse!" rhetoric often offered as a counter argument.
I need a cheat sheet to keep up with all the bullshit propaganda terms for when discussing this subject in general... Cancel culture Virtue signalling Identity politics Politically correct I feel like that's the big four but I'm always sure I'm forgetting some.
And the thing is, there's a whole goddamn industry on the right trying to, to use their bullshit term, "cancel" college professors who offend their conservative right wing sensibilities in literally ANY way. The University of Mississippi is basically setting the whole campus on fire because they are pissed that a whistleblower leaked e-mails showing some major donors were racist as fuck. Not a word to say "dude is racist as fuck" but the fucking gestapo for finding out who exposed their dirty secret and one (highly regarded) prof already fired. In a whole separate story the State Auditor is targeting a prof who participated in the academic "strike" (which was just one day) last spring during the protests And then there's this: the Iowa Legislature literally wants a review of the political positions of all university hires in the state (lest they inadvertently hire a progressive, donchaknw?) Oh, and the ongoing saga of Collins College and Dr. Lora Burnett These are FAR more common than some rando actor getting publicly shamed. And matter more for the future of the culture.
We faced something like this. It was called World War II. The answer to that, was good got up off its ass and won.
Jesus, that's all you've got anymore. Well, that and 5 other boring replies. Are you deliberately shooting for NuDayton, or is there something going on with your brain? Dementia? Oxygen deprivation from a strangulation kink? What are we watching unfold exactly?
I am pretty sure he is using whatever that brain damaging black ooze ghouliani was using. I am pretty sure when that shit drips into his mypillow stuffing it morphs into crack and meth vapors which he then breathes in all night long. Then in the morning he squeezes all the black liquid out of his mypillow and that is actually republican kool aid. He has a good old cup of that while he drives to work listening to lord limbaugh in his pickup with the twenty trump flags.
Y'know, it occurs to me, if you weren't so obsessed with poop, and pee, and spoodge, you'd be a half-decent children's author.
Maybe a better headline would be "Cancel culture exists, but what the cultural right is whining about today ain't it."
hmmm.....sort of like racism exists, but what the cultural left is whining about today (and nearly every day) ain't it. Food for thought!
Firing somebody because of their political views is not a little deal. Nothing Gina Carano said warranted it and Disney only proved her point by doing so. But she doesn't toe the leftist line so screw her right?
Nothing Gina Carano said warranted - everything she said warranted it. She was warned multiple times by her employer. If you don't like it, maybe you should stop voting for 'at will' employment governments. Who supports that again? Nah, that would be too much like introspection and the ability to form a cogent thought.
The right screaming about cancel culture is the schoolkid complaining about getting detention instead of addressing their own behaviour.
There's always been cancel culture. Conservatives however have been behind most of it. Want freedom from slavery? Canceled. Took a bloodbath to get that one done. Want to be able to move freely after your freedom? Nope, sheriffs will round you up for vagrancy. Canceled. Want to be able to vote after the 14th amendment. Jim Crow, canceled. Want women's suffrage? They got their own women to vote against that. We were decades behind the leaders on that. Want equal rights? Want gay marriage? Want resources put into AIDS research? Canceled, canceled, canceled. They are just upset as they are becoming the minority, it is happening to them. And in almost all cases, it's because they opposed protections for workers to make corporate culture supreme. This is far, far different than canceling human rights, yet they don't teach basic reality so they think they are uniquely persecuted. The GOP - the party of spoiled, stupid, racist children.
Wait. I thought private businesses should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted? And, political views are not protected by the constitution in the same way gender, religion, and sexual orientation are.
Cancel culture is not political, tho it often seems to be. Human beings try to suppress anything they disagree with or find upsetting. Sometimes it's more obvious than others, but a basic feature of the species is "You are other and must be removed."
