Iowa is thinking of the children.

Presumption? No. You state it outright and give people the chance to take it or leave it.

This is not "they exist." This is "They exist and here is how you are obligated to view the situation." That is an opinion, and you fucking authoritarians have no business forcing it on anyone.

The bigot parents tell their kids they're obligated to bully.
But that's "liberty" because reasons.

Oh, and...

Fuck off, copsucking fraud.

sigh...
yet they're already expected to have a bunch of immunizations before they're allowed in in the first place so the statement has been clearly made for quite some time.

so fine.. forget "presumption".. how about "fulfilling the parental responsibility of due diligence"?


did I miss something and you've become an antivaxxer? or is this one of those covid freedom things?

There is no liberty without accountability, but I'll need specifics before I condemn this alleged "bullying."

Now extend that to the topic at hand. Should it just be taken as a given that teachers are free to undermine parents as they see fit? Obviously not. You must inform parents and leave the choices to them.

Says the guy who hasn't read any of the "woke" books, but had them described to him by hate-mongers.

How on Earth is:

A bill that would prohibit schools from affirming or recognizing a student’s preferred gender identity in school without written consent from their parents.

Only superficially similar to:

A situation in which I, as the representative of the school to the student at that time, affirmed and recognized the student's preferred gender identity in school without written consent from their parents.

Those two examples are the same. Referring to Robert as Bob tomorrow is not.

What.

And again for the children!

Iowa, Minnesota consider loosening child labor laws as job market tightens - The Washington Post

it clearly does extend to the topic at hand. whether you agree or not, minors have a constitutionally/SCotUS recognized right to medical autonomy.

your strawman of parents being undermined is irrelevant, no matter how strongly you (pretend to) feel about it.

ANd here you are, claiming a right to unperson people categorically.

yeah, sure... we're the authoritarians...

That's a funny way of saying "free speech," but yes, dictating my use of language infringes on that right, and is a textbook authoritarian tactic.

yes, I'm sure it's always about "free speech" at your proud boi meetings..

you know damn well it's never been an absolute right, as does everybody else. So why do you keep trying the angle?

I don't have to assert it as an absolute right. YOU have to defend any specific intent to undermine it.

first you have to show me where the free speech issue is in the first place when it comes to intentionally misgendering someone? especially if it's against a workplace harassment policy.

If speech can't get people killed, then all that anti-Japanese war propaganda in the 40's that used de-humanizing and de-personing was wasted money.

See, there you go. Make it a stated workplace policy and I can choose not to work there.

It IS a free speech issue, even when you try to muddy it with whining about your own special cause with its own special rules.

Free speech absolutism is a cause, and you wet enough diapers over it to fill a garbage scow.
And you're a hypocrite for that cause.
But fanatics are always hypocrites.
The other thing that fanatics are, that makes them fanatics in the first place, is narcissistic losers that can't handle that they don't have a chest full of medals for existing.
That's why you repeat "Spoiled!! Spoiled!! Spoiled" in your rhetoric, you're fucking jealous.
It ought to be you having your ass powder-puffed.

except the subject isn't your workplace, but a publicly funded school.

sorry you can't successfully muddy the issue with your own whiny, personalize exception, but...


look dude, we get it. you're a tiny little man who needs to come across as a bully.

congratulations on the self acceptance, but nobody is obligated to put up with you.

There is no hypocrisy here. It is my refusal to apply special rules to one protected class that is triggering you.

You're the one who brought up workplace rules. I already solved the school issue by notifying parents of a policy in advance.

You want to dictate what I say, and I'm telling you to go fuck yourself. Nothing muddy about that.

Nope. I'm just denying you a power that was never yours to wield.

Likewise, dickhead. That's how free association works. Reacquaint yourself with it.

Bull-fucking-shit.

Your protected class is white people.
No one's more protected than whites, and you say fuck-all about that.
Maybe it's invisible to you because the protection is so complete, and total, and victorious, it requires no activism.
Except....whites ARE screechy activists for themselves. Karens are screechy activists. "Concerned parents" are screechy activists.
The venn diagram for anti-CRT/anti-trans parents, and Karens is a fucking circle.
You say fuck-all about them.
So it's not screechy activism that has your panties in a twist. Not really.
And it's not "protected classes". Not really.
Gee, what could it be?

The fallback for a weak position. "Oh yeah? Well.....you're a racist!"

Keep in mind that when conservatives talk about Freedom of Speech what they really mean is Freedom from Consequences of their Speech.

They believe that they should be able to say any despicable thing they want, support any horrific policy, discriminate against anyone they want without anyone judging them or deciding to not spend time with them, give them money, employ them, etc.

It's factual statements of what you bitch about and what you don't.
That they form an uncomfortable pattern is on you, not me.

No, it's "They exist and here's how to treat them with the same basic decency you extend to everyone else by default," which you see as tyranny because you're a fucking infant.

You love authoritarianism when it's protecting you from groups and ideas that make you uncomfortable or threaten to inconvenience you in any way. Because you're a fucking infant.

na... see I treat folks with dignity and respect (without making them "earn" it).

You, on the other hand, expect those around you to tolerate whatever falls out of your face sphincter without repercussions. No one is telling you what to say, just that we don't have to hear from you in the first place... nobody owes you the time of day.

typical bully boy cowardice that you feel entitled otherwise.