Iowa is thinking of the children.

Why did people rate this dumb and if you did do you have kids of your own?

Because cumming inside someone/getting cummed in doesn't make someone magically correct about everything. Some parents are stupid, some parents are shitty little bigots, some parents are literally evil. It's absurd to treat parents as the final authority on all matters by default.

No, but I have friends that would have been honour killed if their teachers had informed their parents of everything they might find objectionable. So fuck Albert and anyone else that wants teachers to work overtime as the morality police.

Definitely not, but it does give them priority on managing that child's life vs a complete stranger

Some teachers are stupid, some teachers are shitty little bigots and some teachers are literally evil

Tie goes to the parents

You're just repackaging opinions. What it means to be decent. Refusing to kowtow to someone amounts to wielding authority over them.

What consequences do you think I'm evading?

Dignity is not an entitlement, and respect is EARNED.

Nobody is obligated to tolerate each other. My entire position is "you don't fuck with me, I won't fuck with you." Framing that as entitlement is just dumb.

Call your boss a shitlicking fuckstain to his face, free-speech warrior.

If you don't, then maybe you understand what this..

...means.
Even if you have to be cornered into it by pragmatism.

Because they think they know better than parents, and draw satisfaction from undermining them.

You've done fuck all to earn ours, and everything to lose it.

And your sphere of protection that expands beyond your precious self probably speaks volumes.

Nah.

Nah. Teachers are at least expected to uphold some sort of professional standards.

So, how's your son doing? About ready for college now, right?

Kowtow? You're such a dramatic little bitch. No wonder you can't keep an (attractive) woman.

Yah! It really does

Parents uphold professional standards as well, we just don't get a diploma that says we can teach math that any schlub can get - setting a good example, teaching kids about life, making sure they're safe. The list is actually fucking endless and exhausting. To paint parents with such a broad brush and say they aren't entitled to be the final authority of their own children because there are some bad parents out there is unbelievably absurd

I'm gonna say it.......if you had kids you'd understand

Teachers aren't completely stupid, and neither are kids. If both a kid and their teacher don't think it's a good idea to let that kids parents know something about that kids personal life (so long as it's not harming anyone), is it not possible they both have relevant concerns about that child's safety? Is a kids right to not get their ass kicked less important than a parents right to abuse their kids for being different?

See now you're getting into specifics - pity, since you started this off sounding like an anti parent nutjob, sweeping around your broad brush like a dirty broad brush whore

Of course if they knew a child was going to be harmed then a teacher should intervene to help that child. That's just basic common sense but it's also very hard to be certain of it as well. Kids lie and make terrible emotion based decisions all the time

Because while it's certainly true as a principle, it fails as a blanket statement used in support of the arguments (and I use that word lightly since UA can't even keep consistent what he's posting in this thread) being made.

Is a teacher obligated to check with parents before letting their white child play with black kids, just in case they are trying to raise them with segregationist principles?

Is a teacher obligated to inform parents if they have seen their female child holding hands with a boy at lunch break, in case the parents hold religious beliefs that any such contact is immoral?

Is a teacher obligated to inform the parents if they have seen a male child holding hands/cuddling up with another boy, in case the parents think it might be a sign of homosexual tendencies that need to be beaten out of him?

In an English speaking environment is a teacher obligated to inform or seek permission from parents before doing anything that exposes them to a word of another language, in case any of the parents are the type who believe that no language other than English should be used?

Is a female teacher getting married to a man required to inform/ask permission of parents before letting any students know?

Is a female teacher getting married to a woman required to inform/ask permission of parents before letting any students know?

Is a teacher required to seek permission or later inform parents before exposing the student's to anything that suggests the world is older than 7000 years?

Is a teacher required to seek permission for or later inform parents about exposing the student's to anything related to evolution?

Is a teacher required to seek permission for or later inform parents about teaching about the moon landing, in case the parents believe it was actually a faked conspiracy?

Is a teacher required to seek permission for or later inform parents about anything that involves students singing the national anthem, in case parents see it as indoctrination?

Is a teacher required to seek permission for or later inform parents about students getting access to chocolate, in case a parent wants to raise their child as vegan and hasn't informed the teacher previously?

The original topic was about a bill that would require teachers to disclose gender identity related information to parents and require their signed permission before honouring a child's request to change how they identify themselves in the classroom. To me, that seems both dumb as shit and also dangerous when it's mandatory. I didn't need a signed permission slip to get teachers to call me Ray instead of Raymond, why should some little trans kid need that either?

UA would call that "undermining the parents."

I have two in school and disagree. Teachers not only much more training but also oversight.

Parents Rights only go so far and have long been abused.

Just like I don’t think parents should be allowed to starve their kids, deny them medical care or other things I don’t think they get the only say on stuff like abortions, vaccines, gender/sexual expression, etc. etc.

It’s okay to be a non cormist if you conform to UAs idea of non conformity

That and the fact he uses shitty duct tape and she chews through it.

Yeah no. Teachers and parents undermine each other all the time*. Part of learning, growing up, is figuring out who's worth listening to or believing on any given topic. Sometimes it'll be a teacher who'll deliberately misgender a kid despite supportive parents. You gonna demand that teacher get permission to do so, and say, if the parents say to address the kid with something other than their legal name, the teacher has to? Something tells me the answer is no.

* and the books they read undermine both.

"Earn my respect while I disrespect you and get out of my way or I'll fuck you up"

yeah... you're wrong on both you narcissistic thug.

because everyone has been a kid at some point, and undermined by both teachers and parents?

thinking about my ex and the battle with her kid's father over getting her vaxxed (he's a self proclaimed libertarian-trust fund kid, so makes sense).

she eventually did it anyway because the kid wanted to get it.

thinking about a bunch of years ago when I was getting back on my feet. Moved into a rooming house that was really sketchy-drug traffik, etc... rather than lay down the law of "don't fuck with me, I won't fuck with you" trying to wave my dick around like that I asked of my housemates to make it easy for me to stay out of their way.

Simply offered them a respectful approach while stating my own expectations of being left alone... hardly surprising, but it worked. They managed to (mostly) keep their business from disrupting my peace and quiet, and when it did I didn't bitch too much about it.

Earn it or forfeit it, I don't care. You are as free to dismiss my terms as I am yours. Neither is victimized by the exchange.

I take no issue with that, because you had a choice.

other than in the past of how it's been explained how your actions either potentially or actually can cause harm to others which you dismiss because it'd mean taking responsibility for your actions... or worse, not getting your way.

Offense and hurt feelings are not "harm," and no, I am not responsible for how you choose to perceive and react.

"Terms"?
the self importance is overwhelming with you...