Iowa is thinking of the children.

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  1. Uncle Albert

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    And YOU want to experiment on them, Dr. Mengele.
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    Drown in piss.
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    Where the fuck did that bullshit even come from?
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  4. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    You're pretty dumb, lol
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  5. Diacanu

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    He's not saying boogeymen are chopping the dicks off 5 year olds....but they're chopping the dicks off 5 year olds.
    :tinfoilhat: :whacko:
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  6. Diacanu

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    This.
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    A smart man once said:

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    Pakled smart or smart smart? :unsure:
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    Yeah, but what's their bone density?
    It's important.
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  11. Ancalagon

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    A 16-year-old boy was killed this week while working at a sawmill in Wisconsin in violation of child labor laws.

    Wisconsin is one of 14 states with proposals to roll back child labor protections.

    https://twitter.com/hannahdreier/status/1676224918818631680

    What the MSM isn’t telling you is that there was a drag show going on at the sawmill and it was one of the performers that slaughtered the kid.
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  12. Diacanu

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    What was his bone density?
    Let's count the rings.
    (That's intended as a joke, but UA literally fucking would)
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  13. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Florida is thinking of the children.


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    Betcha more than one of those GOP lawmakers owns a service-sector business and has personally sexually harassed underage female employees.
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  15. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    A tale of two signings.

    Minnesota Gov signing bill providing breakfast and lunch to all schoolchildren v Arkansas Gov signing bill allowing state funds to go to religious schools:


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  16. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    If all the bill wanted to do was to limit or prevent gender identity, sexuality or other related things from being "required learning," it could be easily accomplished by something saying "No Florida public school may assign a course about human sexuality" or "All public schools must follow the following approved curriculum when it comes to the subject of human sexuality" and leaving it at that.

    But the bill goes farther than that. It is linked above.

    It says:
    1. A school district can't generally prevent parents from finding out information about their child's mental health.
    In the abstract that may seem fine and even desirable. In the context of LGBTQ+ kids, though, it's a pretty common occurrence that one of the issues a teen is struggling with has to do with sexuality, and such things as difficulty relating to parents who might not understand or who are absolutely hostile to LGBTQ kids. This provision puts students and educators in a likely quandary in such cases: Do they respect the child's desire for secrecy or this law? The impact of this law may be for schools to want to discourage kids from talking about how their sexuality may be affecting their mental health. i.e. DON'T SAY GAY.

    2. Parents can sue school districts they think are providing inappropriate education on sexuality, and if they win, they are entitled to damages and attorneys' fees. Against the backdrop of litigation, and with many of these terms potentially ambiguous, many school districts will back away from not just classes that deal with sexuality but even off-hand mentions of it, as such things could cost the districts time and money even if they ultimately prevail. In short, the law creates a chilling effect where it's best to DON'T SAY GAY.
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    That's your interpretation. Another might be "Don't meddle in other people's family affairs."

    What I find chilling is this concerted effort to drive a wedge between parents and kids. Get them while they're young for indoctrination.
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  18. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I think most people realize in 2024 that kids are not indoctrinated into being LGBTQ and it's not a choice.

    If you disagree with that, then oh well.

    If you agree with that, then hopefully you will understand that it's not driving a wedge between parents and kids. The wedge between parents who think that queerness is a choice and an evil one at that and kids who are queer already exists. It's just then a question of what a school should do about it.
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    Yeah, imaginary boogeyman stories usually are chilling.
    "Gone Girl" is vaguely plausible, but thankfully, it's not real.
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  20. Uncle Albert

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    Nice try. I obviously mean conditioning children with the entirely FALSE notion that the LGBQWERTY side of the gender politics argument is just objectively correct, with no room for debate and compliance mandatory.
    Schools should do fucking NOTHING about it. They should be as neutral and hands-off as they should be with religion. It is not the place of fucking self-important activist teachers to shove their opinions at children. The arrogance of that pisses me off. Try it WITHOUT a captive audience, and 9/10 times they will be told to go fuck themselves.
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  21. Diacanu

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    If arrogance pisses you off, you're gonna LOVE hating white nationalists.
    ;) :diacanu:
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    The main part of the "LGBTQWERTY side" that potentially gets taught AFAIK is that being queer is not a choice, that it is who people are and thus there is not shame to it.

    I don't know if you think that is false.

    I happen to think it is objectively true, and thus I do think that it presents an issue for schools as the encounter children who are being raised to think that they are evil and should commit suicide because they are queer.
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    Implicit with UA's boogeyman "indoctrination" delusion is "that coulda happened to ME!!! :soma:".

    No, it fucking couldn't have. :bang:

    We both grew up in the fucking 80's.
    The dumbass homophobe 80's.
    They thought touching a Barbie doll could queer you up.
    They thought looking at a Calvin Klein ad for too long would turn you.
    Everyone on Earth would be gay if all the things 80's homophobes thought had gayness particles on them worked.
    This is just the latest strain of the bullshit.
    And as I keep having to repeat, it entirely comes from fucking Christians.
    There's no secular libertarian version of it.
    If someone's spinning these anti-LGBT boogeyman stories, and says they're secular, they're fucking lying to you.
    Or, working a grift.
    If Ted Cruz can lick Trump's boots after having him insult his wife, pseudo-libertarians will certainly spread Christian fearmongering.
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    Regular reminder that through dozens of examples it's well established that even UA doesn't actually hold to the blanket PARENTAL RIGHTS!!! strawman he pulls out, but actually just means the things he personally is butthurt about.
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    So you’d be fine with a law that required teachers to report to parents if a child talked to them about being uncomfortable going to church because they didn’t believe in God, or nah?
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    Okay the kids in the second photo do look like Hitler youth. Not a good look, Sarah.
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    They look like they know they're about to go to a party hosted by Gary Glitter
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    My read is: “I’m just here so I don’t get fined beaten.”
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    The wedge is already there. You're just trying to make sure kids with shitty parents don't have a lifeline.
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    He can put himself in the shoes of an imaginary kid with imaginary boogeymen parents out of an alien possession movie, which is what the "transing our kids!!" narrative amounts to, but he can't put himself in the shoes of a trans kid with abusive parents which is a real thing you can point to.
    Because trans yucky.

    Oh, and when any liberal on Earth says "abusive" it doesn't mean beating, and shouting, and gaslighting, because liberals lying, because liberals yucky.
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