Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

The shamefulness of this moment has been compared to a vote in 1980 where the US & UK used the veto to maintain recognition of the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia after it had been removed by Vietnam.

Yes. Are you going to claim that the IDF denial is relevant and that they have to admit it before you'll believe it?

Is this you?

How times change.

Yes, and did you read the entire article? It seems to state that they called for ambuilances to evacuate these babies and none came while the doctors were forced to evacuate and leave them there on the beds to die and decay.

I am not really understanding what you are trying to imply here. That is probably because my mind is not a twisted realm of dark bigoted prejudice against anything non-jewish.

You have to let us know what your jew superior mind sees in this shit because some of us do not think like you supremacists. Even as a person who thinks in terms of being more intelligent than most people cannot project whatever superiority level crazy you are thinking here.

That's not remotely what's happening here. There are multiple credible sources used.

You might think it impresses people when you say that you oppose both sides harming civilians (personal growth from your previous advocacy of mass murder I suppose) but when it gets down to it you'll use any excuse to avoid applying that principle to those you perceive to be on your own side.

Hyper-partisanship is your whole game, on this and other issues.

Rick:

Amaris:

Hamas:

There's a bunch of anonymous sources and Hamas sources pushing one narrative, and there's some circumstantial evidence that possibly supports part of the narrative, but there's no smoking gun that backs up the claim Hamas is making.

It's Federal Farmer and Hunter Biden's laptop all over again. "Do you deny the laptop exists? Do you deny the laptop exists?" The laptop exists. The rotting baby corpses exist. But the narrative that some known liars are trying to create around both is unproven.

Like I said, I don't support what the asshole settlers are doing in the West Bank. The violence being committed there is unacceptable. If Hamas had attacked them, I'd be a lot less sympathetic. And when the IDF shows up at a tweens home in the West Bank and throws her in prison indefinitely for spitting on a soldier, that makes my blood boil.

Nah, that's just the excuse you give yourself for dismissing anything I say. You do you, though.

Hahahaha.

Excuse me, doesn't this punish a bunch of civilians for the actions of their government? Isn't that genocide and ethnic cleansing and war crimes by your usual standards? Why's it funny now?

is it not super dangerous to sail around the Horn of Africa which why the Suez Canal was built?

Your Mom's canal didn't think the Horn of Africa was something to avoid.

I believe that all states have a moral responsibility to use whatever means are at their disposal to prevent genocide. More should be intervening directly against Israel and their enablers. And no, it's not remotely equivalent to using starvation and disease for leverage, as Israel is doing.

And what exactly do you think Hamas is trying to do to Israel, professor?

On that point: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67670679

9 out of 10 people in Gaza can't eat every day.
50% are starving.

This is from the World Food Program, no doubt an arm of Hamas according to our resident Zionists.

Hamas is on record as saying the suffering of Gazans isn't their problem. Fortunately the IDF is doing it's best to eliminate Hamas so that people who actually give a shit about Gazans can rule Gaza for a change.

bUt Do YoU cOnDeMn HaMaS?!?!

Gonna need some more info on this as I didn’t find much in my search.

It’s been a while but my memory is that while the Khmer Rouge was a minority faction in the internationally recognized Government in Exile they were the smallest and least influential.

The former (and future) king’s party was the most powerful (and he President) with a second party I can’t remember having the Prime Ministership and the Khmer Rouge Foreign Minister.

This Government in Exile would eventually come back in 1993 and end thirty years of civil war.

While the last twenty years haven’t been the most… liberal/democratic (though it should be said by the late 90s the Khmer Rouge practically ceased to exist and have exercised no power) they have been the most stable and less deadly decades in half a century so maybe maintaining recognition wasn’t a huge mistake.

The latest numbers are in, and it's much worse than I thought.

Over 10,000 infants and children killed in Israel’s Gaza genocide, hundreds of whom are trapped beneath debris

Source: https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6020

The Israeli Army Has Dropped the Restraint in Gaza, and the Data Shows Unprecedented Killing

Source: http://archive.today/DHqIF

Haaretz article for Dec 9th, pulled from archive because of paywall.

While Hamas presents itself as a Palestinian movement whose goal is to eliminate Israel and establish an independent Palestinian state stretching from the River to the Sea, this movement is also part of the global Muslim Brotherhood (MB), whose ultimate goal and vision is the establishment of a worldwide Islamic caliphate. Hamas leaders and spokesmen repeatedly express that their movement will not liberate only Palestine, but aims to bring all the Islamic countries, and eventually the entire world, under Islamic rule. The liberation of Palestine, they stress, is just a prelude to the establishment of a worldwide caliphate: Rome will be conquered by Islam as Constantinople was once conquered, and then the rest of the world will be overtaken as well, including America and Eastern Europe.

Arab writers have in fact slammed Hamas for this aspect of its ideology and rhetoric. In a recent article, published in the wake of Hamas' October 7 massacre in southern Israel, Egyptian author Dr. Mouna Al-Hilmi wrote that Hamas purports to be fighting for the liberation of Palestine, but its ultimate goal, like that of the MB, is the restoration of the caliphate. Yemeni journalist Hani Salem Mashour made similar remarks in a recent article in the Emirati daily Al-Arab.

https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas...lamic-caliphate-not-just-liberation-palestine

https://twitter.com/marwasf/status/1733642107850473574?t=p7ZIXcpj6rc7rRc5Yrx_2Q&s=19

Just the most moral army in the world setting fire to food and water supplies in northern Gaza.

So a ransacked truck with clearly very little in it, as we can see into the truck bed. And we don't know the context of this at all. Was this one of the ones that Hamas looted? Are they denying the little that is left from Hamas, or from Palestinians? You have no idea. But you see it as useful propaganda.

Israel claims 7000 Hamas militants killed.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/10/7432404/

Elderly Palestinian women condemns Hamas for stealing aid from civilians, hoarding it in tunnels.

“All the aid goes underground,” she said in Arabic, an apparent reference to Hamas’ vast network of underground tunnels, which it uses to hide supplies for the war on Israel. “It does not reach all the people.

“We came here from Gaza city ... all the aid is meant for us. I am not afraid, I am talking to them as well,” she added, before the journalist interjects.

“A lot of aid is coming, it is being distributed, this is what they say,” he said, before passing back the TV microphone.

The unidentified woman then wagged her finger at him and said: “Hamas takes everything to their homes. They can take me, shoot me or do whatever they want to me.”

“It seems the situation is unclear,” said Al Jazeera’s interviewer in response.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...an-accuses-hamas-stealing-aid-rare-criticism/

Evil terrorist organization acts like evil terrorist organization? Strange.

Hard to say without knowing the language, the inflection, etc. but it seems like the Al Jazeera reporter was essentially taking Hamas' side here. I wonder how much support Hamas has in Gaza now, and what the implications are for the organization and the Gazan population post war.

Probably won't be seeing that lady again, though.

Palestinians throw rocks at Hamas militants stealing aid. Hamas fires warning shots and forces them back. As they leave the Palestinians chase the aid trucks screaming at Hamas.

https://vidmaxviral.com/video/22175...stinians-stone-them-to-try-and-make-them-stop

Hamas fires rockets out of designated safe area where food distribution was supposed to be safe.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-777346

Hamas beats Palestinians, steal aid. This is a separate instance than the others, caught on video from a UAV.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...rael-defence-forces/articleshow/105870965.cms

Yeah, that's really fucking funny.

What a great way to escalate it into a regional conflict and get yourselves back on global terrorism lists.

Dumbass fucking Houthis.

The more Palestinians that turn on Hamas, the better. I'm just wondering how long it will take and how long this war will go on before pro-Palestinian protesters in the West take off the mask and just start openly supporting Hamas. You know, those beleaguered underdogs fighting for "freedom."