Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

It should be obvious that Putin was lying about favoring Biden by the way Russians have been supporting Trump and supplying fodder to attack Biden (i.e. through Russian agents trying to get that FBI informant to spread the notion that Joe and Hunter Biden were taking bribes from Burisma, from various other Trump-Russia connections, from Trump's undermining NATO being in Russia's interest, from Trump trying to slow-walk aid to Ukraine both while in office and trying to get Republicans to do so now).

Trump is a far less chaotic mind than you seem to think.

As Israeli lies about UNRWA fall apart, it's good to see the EU unfreeze their funding, even though this has already done much damage.

https://twitter.com/MedicalAidPal/status/1763172220900151317

"This is the fastest decline in a population's nutrition status ever recorded. That means children are being starved at the fastest rate the world has ever seen."

Except kids in the US South when it comes to decent education.

But for realz this is not good.

US has started air dropping food and supplies. But I saw it was C-130s not C-17s (about 4.5x the payload). Maybe the C-17s fly too fast to accurately drop in such a small area?

And:

Also being reported in Israel: Ganz to visit White House Monday, alone, and without Bibi's approval. Bibi is furious.
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https://bsky.app/profile/omrimarian.bsky.social/post/3kmq6n67rvg2l

Both positive signs.

The aid drops are welcome but wholly inadequate, particularly if they are used to relieve the pressure to get more aid in on the ground.

The aid dropped yesterday was equivalent to what just two trucks would carry. A single meal for 2% of the Gazan population.

They're still turning back aid from northern Gaza, and today the IDF have cut communications access in Rafah. This typically heralds the worst.

Meanwhile, Israel are selling stolen Palestinian land in Canada.

“The U.S. military will build a temporary port and pier on Gaza’s coastline to provide a new route for humanitarian aid, President Biden is set to announce in his State of the Union address Thursday evening, according to senior administration officials.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/07/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestine/

https://bsky.app/profile/drjamesjteeth.bsky.social/post/3kn4rv4hco22a

First off: GOOD.

Secondly are we talking Seabees going in (with Marines providing security) or just hiring contractors? The fact that it is US military and not just US makes me think the former and that could go sideways if Hamas or PIJ or anyone else wants to fuck around.

You wanna get the American people lined up behind helping you ‘find out’ ‘fuck around’ with folks trying to build your people humanitarian aid infrastructure.

An Irish woman from a suspect organization is the source?

Sounds legit and trustworthy!

(And I say "suspect" because the Wikipedia entry is full of red flags.)

I always wondered how that flotilla some years ago was ever supposed to land at Gaza. Their coastline is entirely beach.

The organisation is "suspect" because their Wikipedia article is badly written?

Just about every humanitarian aid organisation around is saying similar things. WFP, UNICEF, the Red Cross. Even fucking USAID.

The only ones denying how catastrophic the situation is are the Israelis. COGAT, who are the body whose job it is to ensure the flow of aid to Gaza are posting up videos from months ago falsely claiming that markets in Gaza are full. It's lazy stuff meant only to convince the credulous - the marketplaces are now rubble, and can be seen to be.

And yeah, US efforts to bring aid by sea are welcome, though they will still take weeks. Biden's obviously getting the message that starving children is not a good look. But it's also pathetic - they refuse to challenge the Israelis who could easily and immediately assuage the situation.

And their spokesperson is Irish.

Really depends on how much staging of wo/men and material has been done, how much work has been done planning/coordinating security and how fast they want to go.

For Seabees this is literally their ‘one job’. Move into a contested environment and have trucks rolling off boats ASAP. And they don’t get to do it as much as they’d like. You’re gonna have folks knifing each other for the chance to deploy on this mission and when they get there they will all be going balls to the wall to prove they still got it.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seabee

Depending on the situation it could be hours not days from when they get there to when the first trucks roll. Longer for bigger ships.

In the meanwhile, back in reality, this isn't even the deadliest famine in the Middle East within the last 10 years. 85,000 Yemeni children died due to famine in their civil war. There's multiple famines that killed 10 million or more in both China and India. Entire civilizations have collapsed repeatedly due to famine due to drought and climate change.

But with the nutjob left, everything is always the absolute worst of all time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

Nobody said it was the "deadliest famine", you mendacious twat.

"This is the fastest decline in a population's nutrition status ever recorded. That means children are being starved at the fastest rate the world has ever seen." Really? The world has never seen starvation like this? Fuck off, you lying sack of shit.

Clearly that's overt propaganda considering the massive death totals in numerous famines in world history. It's a disingenuous attempt to make people think that the kids are dying in record numbers, with a completely contrived metric. I don't think we had nutritionists counting calories in the 1337 Famine in China that killed 6 million, or the Kyungshin famine in Korea, or the massive crop loss of 1876-1879 that killed 15 million plus throughout Asia, or the Holodomor. On and on and on.

What we did have is enormous amounts of death absolutely dwarfing anything going on in Palestine, both as total numbers and percentage of the population.

Words have meanings. "Fastest decline in a populations nutritional status ever recorded" is a specific, empirical fact. It doesn't mean or imply any of the other different things you want to pretend it does.

Amidst their starvation of Gazans, the IDF see fit to drop leaflets on the people there taunting them by imploring them to "feed the needy" during Ramadan. Beyond sick.

No, it isn't. Because there's no baseline over history for this. First, there's no cite, it's just an asssertion. Second, there's no nutrional information for the overwhelming majority of famines. It's complete fucking nonsense that you lap up because it reinforces your prejudices.

Nutritional and food security data has been collected since the 1970s. So no, we don't have it for the fucking 13th century - which is why the qualifier "on record" is included. That the Israeli-induced famine is only the worst decline in the nutrition level of a population in the last 50 years isn't the tremendous recommendation for their humanitarianism that little Eichmann's like you seem to think it is.

I guarantee you that nutrition and food security data isn't collected universally throughout the world even now. And it's not even the worst famine going on now.

But once again, left wing nutjobs can't use that for wedge issues in their politics, because Sudan doesn't feed their own joyous antisemitism.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/6/sudan-war-could-trigger-worst-famine-in-world-wfp

And once again, maybe you shouldn't start genocidal wars against your neighbor for 100 years without expecting consequences.

The plan from the Muslims in the region has always been to murder the Jews since the 30s when they thought they'd be easy to massacre after the British left. They won't stop trying to do that.

Maybe they should stop that if they want their children to have a decent future.

That link says that Sudan "risks becoming the worlds worst hunger crisis". Meaning that it's currently not. Because Gaza is worse.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/...srael-conflict-hunger-famine-starvation-sudan

Now, if you were seeking to defend those causing the famine in Sudan, had a history of saying that its victims deserved their fates, and were inventing warped versions of history which painted them collectively as savages there'd be a different conversation.

It also says in Gaza, 'The situation could reach famine levels in the next six months, the coalition warns.'

Oh, so it COULD be a famine? I thought it was 'children are being starved at the fastest level the world has ever seen.'

OK, Rick. Carry on. The rest of us will understand that it's a problem that the US, EU and UN are working to help resolve, but your histrionics aren't the same thing as objective reality.

You don't speak for 'the rest of us', or anyone but yourself, fortunately.

The only problem that the US is seeking to solve is the bad PR generated by the genocide they are supporting. In 'objective reality', there are enormous volumes of aid a few miles from these starving people which is being prevented from reaching them.

As regards the term 'famine', the technical definition of that is very stringent - so much so that only two events have been declared as such in the last 13 years. The situation in Gaza may be declared a famine next week.

No, no, no, it's not the last 13 years, it's RECORDED HISTORY. But sure, it MIGHT be a famine next week.

Now you're back to dishonesty conflating the rate of deterioration (the worst recorded) with the severity of the hunger(not the worst recorded). Dealt with that one already.

Maybe go make up some quotations from UN officials again. That might help you.

Hamas and their supporters have been constantly crying wolf over the plight of people in Gaza since October 7th. If everything they said was to be believed every single man, woman, and child should have died months ago.

It's useful propaganda for gaining the sympathies of the folks that only pay attention to headlines, but Rick shouldn't expect the more literate people here to keep falling for it.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2024-03-08/gaza-temporary-seaport hamas-israel-humanitarian-aid -13255463.html

Okay so some more info.

They aren’t going to build a temporary port IN Gaza but instead are going to build a floating port just off the coast and then connect to the shore via floating causeway and also use smaller boats to ferry supplies to shore once offloaded larger supply ships.

No US troops will enter Gaza.

They expect it to be operational in 60 days (sucks) but once completed should be able to handle 2m meals a day (not too shabby).



(pic from a training exercise with our kangaroo friends last year)

They'll still need to connect the causeway to the beach... presumably that will require some boots on the ground.