Kid With Down's Syndrome KO'ed For Kicking Toddler

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  1. Lt. Mewa

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    Dude, where talking about the video. What did you see?
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  2. Zombie

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    If you'd bother to carefully watch the video you can't even tell if he hit the kid. He walks up to the kid and with his right leg initiates the kick to the right out side of the kid. That's not a hard kick and from the camera angle you can't see if he actually hit the kid.

    And no one is justifying the Downs Syndrome guys behavior. Clearly inappropriate.

    What is also unjustified is the father acting as he did. There is a difference between pushing someone back and knocking them out.

    What if this downs syndrome kid had hit his head and died. Sure it's slim but it could happen. That dad would be facing at minimum manslaughter charges.

    You have to use your damn brains. You can't just go into a situation firing both barrels. Maximum force is not always appropriate or even right.
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    Too bad there is no audio.
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    Also, the father never checked the kid. He just went buck wild. And after he hits the guy you would think he would kneel down and check his kid out. The kid looked fine to me.


    Yes, down syndrome dude kicked at the toddler. Doesn't seem like he actually made contact though.

    I would have been..'Hey, whats going on here?' Then talked to my kid and checked his leg.
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  5. Robotech Master

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    he's also not really setting a good example for his kid.
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    I can never be a parent but I can understand the way parents think about their kids. You don't know the situation, someone strikes at your kid, are you going to wait and see if he does it agian? I am at work and cannot see the vid. I will see it when I get home, so I may be way off base here.
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    Okay, the perp had to take three steps toward the kid in order to launch and land the kick, and although it didn't appear to do much damage to the toddler it was clearly an aggressive move. I can't fault the father for his reaction one bit.

    And Mewa, the fact that the perp had downs makes it more dangerous, not less. If he acts aggressively like that and he's retarded, there's no knowing when it's going to stop or if he's going to come back and hit again. God only knows that the Downs kid is seeing on TV at home and soaking up as acceptable behavior- we already know he's not wired right.

    It's a shame when something like this happens, but in this case the retarded kid was the aggressor and the father was acting to defend his son. If I'm a cop that goes down as self defense.
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    The problem is we don't see what the father was doing before he's in the frame swinging, and there's no audio to hear whats going on. To me the kid looks stunned like he doesn't know what's going on; and he probably doesn't. The father jumps into the frame swinging - there's about a second and a half between the kick and the punch that there's really no thought being put into the action.

    Kid bounces into store, man moves towards him and kicks at him, and continues to stand in front of the kid bouncing about, a second later he's cold cocked.

    In my opinion I expect the father thought he *had* to hit the guy that hard, the guy looks like he's expecting confrontation with his body posture; the sad thing is that he was expecting it from the toddler and not the father because as a downs sufferer he doesn't relate well to the world around him.

    Sad, but completely justified.
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    Well let me tell you as a parent what I'd do.

    I'd rush the kid grab him by the collar and push him back.

    Then I check my kid.

    Then I rip his mom a new one.
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    After watching the video carefully, I'm not convinced that he even touched the kid. Extreme overreaction, in my opinion.
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    If you don't think he touched the kid, I hope the dad knocks you out too.
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    I have little doubt that the usual suspects on Wordforge would have no issue with somebody cold cocking a guy in a power wheelchair for little to no reason.
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    There was no way the father would know the bigger kid had Down's Syndrome.

    So going by what he DOES knows, he probably walked into the store, and saw a typical teenager attack and kick his kid.

    It's either an overreaction or not. It's not one if he knows the kid has a disability and the other if the kid is a typical teenager.
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    FFS, guys, WATCH the video carefully. I'm almost 100 percent certain that the guy swings his leg to the right side of the kid, and if he touched him, which I'm not convinced he did, at worst, his leg brushed the side of the kid.

    I don't care if the guy had Down's syndrome or not, the father's reaction was over the top and wholly unnecessary.
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    It's not only certain but that is for sure what happened.
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    The disability is irrelevant. Anyone who is allowed in public is held to the same standards for not kicking at or acting with any aggression towards little kids.
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    Just watched the video, looked staged. If not, it's a reasonable split-second reaction to the situation. Hindsight is cool and all but I'd give this guy the benefit of the doubt.
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    So if a guy appears out of nowhere and tries to punch you in the head but misses, then there is no cause for alarm?

    OK. Suit yourself.
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    Okay but be fair, reality doesn't have an instant slo-mo replay. It was just a moment's reaction. You can see how it might've seemed much worse from the father's perspective.
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    And from the father's perspective, hesitating or taking less decisive action may have placed the kid in further danger. Even if the kick was a miss, you don't wait passively for the attacker to recover and take another swing.
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    I don't know. I lean towards it being an overreaction, but I don't have kids, so I guess it's one of those things where I'd have to be in his shoes to know for sure how I'd react.
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    IT'S AN OVER REACTION!!!!

    You don't have to use maximum force all the time. Damn what is wrong with most of you?

    A simple push or even just jumping in the guys face would work as well.

    No one said anything about hesitating.

    Act but act smart.
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    Wouldn't that be scary for you though? ;)
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    Maximum force would have been killing him. A punch in response to a kick is pretty much a quid pro quo. :shrug:
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    Man, that guy got clocked like McLovin in Superbad. :rofl:
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    :wtf:
    Eyelids, tongue, general stature... You've got to be pretty damn thick yourself not to notice if someone has Downs.

    And, as others have said, Downs kids tend not to be aggressive...
    I want to know a bit more about this before I judge either way...
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    I'm not convinced he tried to kick the kid. As someone else said, it looked more like a misguided attempt to get the kid to stop running.
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    I don't see what all the fuss is about. I mean, this is wrodforge. We KO retards all the time. :shrug:
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    But they never ever stay the fuck down once you do!
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