MCU phase 4.

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  1. Diacanu

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    3rd "Spider-Man: into the Spider-Verse", trailer.
    Now we get all the Spider-Persons.

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    And poster.

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    This makes me think, I wish Disney/Pixar had done more Marvel stuff.
    We got Big Hero 6, and they've never tried again. :(
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    Social media reactions are out for Venom...and it ain't good.
    Lukewarm to bad reviews.
    Some of the lukewarm ones have it as "so bad it's good", kind of good.

    I'll still go see it at the theater.
    1. I promised I would on my blog.
    2. I try to see every single one of these, because I know this superhero explosion is a moment in history, and I want to be in on every bit of it.
    3. Fuck, I went to see the Josh Trank Fantastic Four, because it was BAD enough to be part of cinema history, like Showgirls, and Battlefield Earth.
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    About what I expected. I'll probably see it, too.
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    Well, I had a more well thought out response, but I guess my phone didn’t like what I had to say because it wouldn’t let me post.

    Anyway, I do have some fatigue when it comes to comic book movies and I’d like to see more originality in the likes of Inception or Interstellar or the Martian, but the MCU is still strong. I don’t go opening weekend that much anymore, and I missed a few movies I should have seen in theaters. With TLJ and the fact that I often agree the RLM guys, my enthusiasm is starting to fade. This movie like looks okay, but not theater worthy. As for Avengers 4, of course I’ll be there.
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    Oooohh! I finally found out why it came out at 1 am.
    It premiered on frigging James Cordon.
    :facepalm:
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    Captain America is my favorite from the MCU and he will be missed. Personally I think Avengers 4 should be the end of the MCU as a nice send off to everyone, but I know they won’t do that.

    Maybe now he can go back to being Johnny Storm.:diacanu:
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    They tried reeeeeallly hard to get him in Deadpool 2 as Johnny Storm, but they couldn't get both the rights clearances, and his schedule to line up.
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    Though I really enjoyed Captain America: The First Avenger, it wasn't until the double-tap of Winter Solider and Civil War that the Captain America series became my favorite MCU franchise. Iron Man and Guardians of the Galaxy are slugging it out for #2 (with an edge going to shell-head), and Thor has moved up closer to the pack with Ragnarok.
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    Saw Venom. And you know what?

    It's not bad. In fact, I quite enjoyed it. It isn't The Dark Knight or Captain America: Civil War or Spider-Man 2, but it's a decent enough comic book film. If I were going to compare it quality-wise to an MCU film, I'd say it's about Ant-Man level. It's considerably better than its Rotten Tomatoes score suggests IMHO.

    I didn't find Tom Hardy's performance to be overly broad, though in a few places he may be playing it a bit too comedically. I liked Michelle Williams and was glad that her character got a little more involvement than super-hero girlfriends often do. Jon Campea said in his review that the relationship between Eddie and Venom is the best part, and he is correct. That plays better than I thought it would. Favorite bit: a single word by Venom to Eddie gets a big laugh. I kinda wish there was more because, although Eddie is reasonably developed as a character, Venom--particularly the arc that he follows--is not.

    Negatives? I found the villain weak; Riz Ahmed seems like an emotionless grad student and not an Elon Musk-type CEO, and he gets a few moments where he's so unbelievably sociopathic, that it's hard to see why anyone would work for him; the pay must be awesome. The villains do things that--I don't care how powerful, rich, or well-connected Ahmed's character is--would demand investigation into his activities. At one point, the bad guys--employees of Ahmed's character--wreak absolute havoc with car crashes, explosives, drones, and automatic weapons fire over about 16 blocks of San Francisco streets. There are going to be questions. :lol: One of the henchmen is so completely sadistic, that you KNOW the screenwriter has set him up as a dead-ender.

    Some have claimed it takes too long for Venom (as such) to appear. I didn't think so. And there's plenty of interesting goings-on with, ahem, an additional villain that keeps the action beats coming in the build-up. The ending is a CGI-fest, but it gets interesting by bringing part of it down to a human level. The story is about as bare-bones as you can imagine without any great complication and few surprises.

    The mid-credits scene previews (I presume) the main villain from the next one, as well as the performer playing that character. The scene is presented as a fairly cliched trope, but there's a funny exchange that kinda lampshades it. The sequel will probably be the film Venom fans REALLY want to see. Do I want to see that sequel? Yes. Yes, I do. And make it R-rated while you're at it; I think we can take it.

    7/10. Entertaining despite a very straightforward plot and little ground-breaking in the genre.
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    I'm still dubious about a Spider-Man expanded universe without Spider-Man, but, beyond all expectations, I *do* want that Venom sequel.
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    The writer of the Kraven The Hunter movie says Spider-Man will be in it.

    So....I don't know what this means, if they'll get Tom Holland as Peter Parker back after "Far From Home", or if they'll live-action cast Miles Morales from "Into The Spider-Verse", or what.
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    Is it weird that I always thought of Kraven as being played by Robert Goulet?

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    I want Venom 2 to be Maximum Carnage, and this song absolutely has to be in it.

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    Scarlett Johansson is making 15 million for the Black Widow prequel.
    That's as much as Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth....but still roughly half what Robert Downey gets.
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    In other Johnsson news, she's also the voice of Stitch in the live-action Lilo & Stitch remake.
    Weird!
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    True, but it's much easier to imagine the MCU without SJ than it is without RDJ.
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    This was such an easy guess, it was basically "doy!!", but it's official, Ryan Coogler is writing and directing Black Panther 2.
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    I did NOT see that coming! [/sarcasm]
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    Avengers 4 finally wrapped!!
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    Cue the inevitable "Reshoots!" post in 3...2...
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