My Star Trek Suggestions.

Twat isn't an Irish word.

Beats me. My family is mainly of English, Scottish, and northern German origins. And some American Indian and African American.

I found it by typing in what he's shared around here. His workplace site has his coaching, teaching, and real name listed.

all of the ancestery sites say it is Irish. There's a delicious irony in the meaning of the Gaelic root word as well (Hurtful, obstructive).
I'm wondering if that part of your kin showed up as refugees from the famine or were otherwise exiled?

I'm not sure of the ones with my surname. I have far, far more information about my mothers family and they are almost exclusively from England, Scotland, and northern Germany.

My moms youngest brother toured Germany back in the early 1990s and tracked down many of the families connections there.

I googled the surname origins sites. They all refer to it as a "English surname".

And most of the famous people with a variation of my last name are English with the remainder Australian, Canadian, or New Zealander.

So obvious English. Not that it matters I suppose.

Why aren't you getting Welfare and some casino money?

Displaying blatant xenophobia neither answers the point I made or promotes yourself as anything else than a small-minded bigot, you know.

It is a fact that people in general laugh at you and think you're an idiot. Given this, the chances of their facilitating your grand plans are not high.

He was born a poor black child.

More likely his ancestors came here so long ago he can't trace them. Much of the South (much of the country, in fact) was populated by indentured servants during the Colonial period. Anyone who tells you "I'm mostly Scotch-Irish/Scotch-English but I don't know anything else" likely can't trace back to the Mayflower.

It's also possible his roots go waaay back to Ireland, but with stopovers in the rest of the British Isles (large populations of Irish in Liverpool, among others) before ending up in the States, so they might claim British ancestry (and who's to say the Irish only had babies with other Irish?) despite the roots of the name.

ETA: My own "Irish" ancestors came here much later (post-WWI). They trace back to Newfoundland and then to the British Isles, but there are as many English-sounding names among them as there are Fitzpatricks, and one of the "English" names is actually French.

By the way, anyone ever read G. David Nordley's novella "Into the Miranda Rift"?

Proof positive you don't need aliens (or for that matter space battles) to have an exciting science fiction story.

I don't think anyone needed proof of that.

“Science fiction is the fiction of ideas. Ideas excite me, and as soon as I get excited, the adrenaline gets going and the next thing I know I’m borrowing energy from the ideas themselves. Science fiction is any idea that occurs in the head and doesn’t exist yet, but soon will, and will change everything for everybody, and nothing will ever be the same again. As soon as you have an idea that changes some small part of the world you are writing science fiction. It is always the art of the possible, never the impossible.”

O'Twatley? Twatrahan? McGillitwatty?

Nah. Sounds more English.

"Pfuffuffuffuffuff! I say! Isn't that Sir Dayton Twat, of the Westmorland Twats? Good show!"

No self-respecting Englishman would torture their child by calling it "Dayton".




Twat? Yeah, that's ok.

By the way, I think my much maligned future Enterprise design looks remarkably like the Vengeance from "Into Darkness" when viewed in profile.

http://scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/stid-t5-25.jpg

Where are your designs?

I've been trying to copy the attachment from my three year old thread in the Workshop forum but for some reason I've been unable to.

http://wordforge.net/showthread.php?t=77560

Dayton 3 what are your impressions of ship design of the game star citizen, https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game

Star Trek
A Star Trek series the way I would do it.

1) Set it a few decades AFTER Star Trek: Nemesis. Allows use of any storylines and characters that were “left hanging” after the end of 24th century Star Trek. Plus it allows use of established technology in the Star Trek universe.

2) Set it aboard a future version of the U.S.S. Enterprise. Ultimately, the Enterprise is the character in the Trek universe that matters most. I would drop the entire registry number letter add on thing and just give the ship a new number. No one really cares about a ship being “D”, or “E” or “F” anyway. The name matters. Not the registration.

3)The Enterprise should be the biggest and strongest starship by far. This allows the ship to have the “aircraft carrier” feel when working with other Starfleet vessels. Also, this Enterprise should never be defeated in combat unless it is either badly outnumbered (three to one at least) or engaged by an opponent with clearly superior technology.

4) Note, the new Enterprise will NOT have a new capability that producers think might be “cool” but which as a practical matter is almost never used in episodes (ST:TNGs saucer separation, Voyagers ship landing capability, multi vector attack). And the ships capabilities will be consistently shown.

5) Only five main characters at one time but a larger number of recurring characters.

6) Main cast gets “Law & Ordered”. That is like “Law & Order” most of the main cast members stay on the show 2-4 seasons before leaving (death, transfer, promotion, mysterious disappearance...) and being replaced by entirely new characters (they can guest star in the future).

7) Change the programming format. For too long Star Trek has been stuck in the mode of airing nine new episodes in the fall, followed by four reruns, then four new episodes, then three reruns…. Why not start with first run episodes in time periods like the summers when network competition is far, far weaker. USA & TNT have done well with this tactic.

8) Embrace new technology and change the production format. Why simply crank out 42 minute episodes to air in one hour time slots? Yes, produce these as well, but why not produce “stripped down” episodes at 30 minutes long which keeps the basic “A plot” intact, dispenses with things like irrelevant “B plots” (or worse C plots) yet still enables fans to follow the basic storylines. Likewise, produce longer 50-60 minute versions of the episodes that have all the plots and subplots as well as more special effects sequences that fans can purchase and view online. The thing is to increase interest in a series by making the episodes viewer friendly for fans.
This is similar to the original idea behind “Law & Order”. Filming the episodes in a way that they could be syndicated either as half hour or full episodes.

9) “John Deere” the merchandising. John Deere the tractor and equipment company makes their money selling tractors and related farm equipment. But they produce a substantial amount of other merchandise (toys, books, clothes, et cetera) sold to people with no interest in farm equipment. This strategy serves to promote the John Deere name and keep it in the public eye. The Star Trek franchise has in recent decades (1990s and forward) a disturbing lack of imagination when it comes to merchandising and licensing.

10) No time travel episodes. Or at the very least, no time travel episodes to Earth’s past. At any rate, if time travel is used, it should be very carefully “restrained”. Such as making it clear that the circumstances allowing it are rare and can’t be repeated or predicted.

11) No “god like” aliens.

12) No episodes written specifically for the purpose of being humorous .

13) Do not feature a family member of EVERY main character.

14) Do not spend so many episodes returning to Earth for whatever reasons.

15) No alien societies which are copies of historical Earth societies. In other words, no “20th century Roman Empires”, no “American Indians in space”, no “Nazis in space”, no “Chicago in the 20s in space”, et cetera.

16) Stop introducing brand new aliens. After decades of Star Trek, we have more than enough alien races mentioned or briefly featured already to deal with for three or four series.

17) Leave the Vulcans, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Bajorans , and Andorians alone. All six races have been featured (over featured) in previous series already. They don’t have to disappear entirely, but give them a rest for the most part. Very rarely show the Borg outside of their ships and in general use the Borg like Saberhagen’s Berserkers.

18) Have the Enterprise crew work with the crews of other Federation starships more often. The Enterprise is supposed to be part of a fleet after all.

19) And yes, more battles. I would prefer no fewer than six episodes a season but no more than eight featuring armed combat (out of a 26 episode season). I would greatly prefer that space battles be considerably more realistic and not the “Battle of Britain” swooping and shooting that characterized Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Seeing modern (25th century) ground and aerial combat would be a real treat as well.

20) Look to the “Starfleet Corp of Engineers” (SCE) stories for inspiration at to how “exploration” stories should be written.

21) Use “Stargate SG:1” as a model on how to handle updating plots and maintaining continuity. SG managed to provide a continuous storyline while still having standalone stories in between by simply providing a brief recap in the openings of “arc” episodes.

22) Tone down the liberalistic moralizing. Star Trek is supposed to be set hundreds of years in the future. Who can say what will be “liberal” or “conservative” in 300 years.
After three centuries the terms might completely reverse meanings.

23) Feature more episodes about cool things that are out there in space or that we have some real speculation today might be out there in space. Supernovas, pulsars, quasars, black holes, naked singularities, super Earths, neutron stars, truly bizarre life forms (not necessarily intelligent ones either, et cetera.

24) No nanobots, magic energy beams or other technological deux ex machina’s

25) No disease of the week episodes. If it is worth mentioning once it is worth mentioning again.
26) No reset buttons. If it happens it happens. Think “Star Trek: Vanguard”

27) Show more of the immense structure and support elements of Starfleet and the Federation. Everyone likes to say Star Trek is about “characters” and the “human condition”. Then why not show humans in all the diverse areas they inhabit far and wide across the Federation.


Those are my suggestions currently.

Updated as of August 3rd, 2013.

Who cares?

so at the end of this, I get that Dayton wants a Star Trek that has almost nothing to do with Star Trek.

Oh, and that it should be merchandised beyond the traditional action figures, posters, video collections, book series, party napkins, and under roos.

NOBODY cares how you would do it. Sincerely. NOBODY gives a shit about how you would do it.

You are nobody.

You are fucking NO ONE.

Nobody gives a fraction of a fuck about how you would handle fuckin' anything.

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

it does give us something to laugh at
not too mention, appreciate Voyager for not being

Then why are you posting in this thread.

Wreck!!!

I think dayton has both good and bad ideas.
I like his call for space battles, for example.

To remind you of what you keep losing sight of: the fact that you don't matter to anyone.

I mean that. You could throw yourself off a fuckin' building and die, and nobody would give a fuck about you. You do not matter to anyone, and you never have.

Ask your dog-faced wife, she'll tell you the same.

Why bother? Nobody is listening to you, either here, or less at Paramount.